RE: PVC second octave

From: Javier García Palma (javgpal@terra.es)
Date: Mon Jan 20 2003 - 14:41:12 PST

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Re: PVC second octaveThank you Tim. :)
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  From: Tim Cassler=20
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 11:32 PM
  Subject: Re: PVC second octave

I've built a few PVC flutes myself, and I think the issue is common to =
PVC. Your best bet is to get your blowing edge as uniform and as sharp =
as you can.

With my 4th 2.4 PVC flute (1" PVC....not 3/4") I took meticulous care =
to get the blowing edge as sharp as I could and I've found that I can =
get more of the upper register than with any of the preceding flutes. Of =
course, there are still places the PVC just will not go, I've concluded =
(IMHO).

--=20

  Tim Cassler
  Toolbox Studios, Inc.
  454 Soledad, Suite 100
  San Antonio, TX 78205

210.225.8269 x111
fax.225.8200

From: Javier Garc=EDa Palma <javgpal@terra.es>
 Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:27:51 +0100
 To: <shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu>
 Subject: PVC second octave

Hello to everybody! Greetings from Spain!

I have built seven PVC shakuhachis (1.8, tuned in D)

I can get all notes of lower (otsu) octave with nice and rich =
sounds, but I have put all my efforts to get any sound of high (kan) =
octave with no results but the first two notes (ro and tsu). I've tried =
hard to 'overblow' to get these sounds. Actually I play silver flute =
with no troubles....These are my theories:

1. The PVC pipe cannot reach such high frecuencies because of its =
rigid structure...
2. My technique is wrong.

What's wrong with PVC and Kan octave??

Please, enlighten me with your wisdom...

Thanks in advance.

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 <DIV> </DIV>I=92ve built a few PVC flutes =
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 think the issue is common to PVC. Your best bet is to get your blowing =
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 uniform and as sharp as you can. With my 4th 2.4 PVC flute =
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 as sharp as I could and I=92ve found that I can get more of the upper =
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 than with any of the preceding flutes. Of course, there are still =
places the=20
 PVC just will not go, I=92ve concluded (IMHO). -- Tim=20
 Cassler Toolbox Studios, Inc. 454 Soledad, Suite 100 San =
Antonio, TX=20
 78205 210.225.8269 x111 fax.225.8200 
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 with no results but the first two notes (ro and tsu). I've tried =
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 'overblow' to get these sounds. Actually I play silver flute with no =

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