RE: shakuhachi V1 #399

From: Mark Miller (markm@naropa.edu)
Date: Mon Sep 01 2003 - 17:48:37 PDT


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Jeff,

A quick "no" it is then. I take it that no one on the list would =
disagree: improvisation is not idiosyncratic in honkyoku music (unlike =
in the jazz, Indian and Flamenco traditions). =20

My understanding therefore is that improvisation on the shakuhachi =
stands on its own merits as a modern practice, separate from tradtional =
forms. =20

Mark

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:43:32 +0900
From: "jeff cairns" <shaku8@iris.dti.ne.jp>
To: <shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu>
Subject: in reply to Mark Millar shakuhachi V1 #398
Message-ID: <000a01c36fbd$7cf10c20$0100a8c0@yellowseed>

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Mark,
I suppose that if you began playing, say, Shin Kyo Rei and somewhere in =
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the midst of it you began an improvisation that was deeply inspirational =
=3D
and meaningful for you, you wouldn't be playing Shin Kyo Rei anymore, =
=3D
but something of your own design based on what you thought Shin Kyo Rei =
=3D
might be. Would that speak of the essence of the piece as it was =3D
perceived and intended by its originator? Does it matter? Again, it =
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depends on your intention. As for the question: 'is improvisation okay =
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within the honkyoku tradition?' , the answer at first would probably be =
=3D
a quick 'no'. But that 'no' is based on the idea that realization of =
=3D
the universal within the spiritual practice of honkyoku is something =3D
that comes after a great deal of jostling of your patterns of awareness =
=3D
(as has been found to be the case by our predecessors) while ecstatic =
=3D
glimpses are just encouragements and not attainments. Which begs =3D
another question: does your improvisation come with any sustained =3D
change in your consciousness? I believe the original purpose in the =3D
spiritual practice of honkyoku was to achieve a sustained consciousness =
=3D
shift. What I was trying to say in my first writing was that as history =
=3D
has brought us to the point we are, it takes a great deal of embodying =
=3D
of a piece (read: mindful practice) in order to remove the finish and =
=3D
reveal the grain.=3D20
Seen in another light, if you were chanting the heart sutra and in the =
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middle of it began including words that seemed to sound like the words =
=3D
in the heart sutra, though with variation, would you be chanting the =3D
heart sutra anymore? Well, if your intention were to consistently chant =
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the heart sutra, then you would have missed your mark.

jeff cairns

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