Re: Lacquer?

From: Gene (oldmanriver@alltel.net)
Date: Fri Oct 03 2003 - 13:57:07 PDT


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Neat idea about the fishing rod, Phil. . . .

But along those same lines, Mejiro also sells a 500 mm tool, called =
their "Ji" Spatula, #A0320, for "easily applying 'ji' to the interior of =
the shakuhachi". And they have a similar "Ji" Application Rod, "A =
bamboo rod with special tip for easy application of the 'ji' to the =
inside of the shakuhachi." And, finally, they have a "Ji" Finishing =
Rod, an aluminum angle rod "to even out the 'ji' already applied to the =
inside of the shakuhachi."

Domo arigato gozaimashita!

Gene=20
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Philip Horan=20
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Lacquer?

  Just a note to Gene's advice. At the shakuhachi-making workshops in =
Mejiro they add a dash of a starch-based glue (yello in colour used for =
paper, etc.) to give the mixture of tonoko, water and sejime the right =
texture. Another piece of advice is to even out the ji with the end =
piece of a fishing rod. These can be bought from fishing stores without =
the loops and have the perfect flexibility for shak bores. Phil.

>From: "Gene"=20
>Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
>To:=20
>Subject: Lacquer?=20
>Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:33:41 -0400=20
>=20
>For you newbies like me who have been looking for lacquer, I've =
searched the net everywhere, and I believe Mejiro is the only way to go =
. . . .=20
>=20
>Here's what Mejiro says:=20
>=20
>If you want to "ji" your bore, you buy a tube (or more) of their =
Seshime Lacquer #A0301, thin it with "turpentine oil or gasoline (their =
recommendation)", filter it through their Miyoshino Paper #A0315, and =
apply a thin layer "to flatten the inside surface of the flute".=20
>=20
>Then you buy a package of their Tonoko Powder #A0300, mix it with =
water, they say, then with Seshime, at a rate of 2:1 Tonoko to Sheshime, =
by weight, which will give you a texture similar to paint. Using their =
spatula or brush, you apply in a number of thin layers.=20
>=20
>To finish, if you want a gloss black lacquer bore, you buy a tube of =
their Black Finishing Lacquer #A0305, thin it with "turpentine or =
gasoline", filter it through their Miyoshino Paper and apply to the =
bore. They sell special brushes for this purpose. It requires no =
polishing after application.=20
>=20
>If you want a red lacquer bore, you buy a tube of their Shuai Lacquer =
#A0307, a brown almost clear lacquer, thin it with "turpentine or =
gasoline", filter it through the Miyoshino Paper, then mix it with their =
Shu-no-Ko powder #A0309 and apply in thin layers. Or you can buy a tube =
of their Shu-no-Moto #A0308, thin and filter it, and mix it with the =
above Shuai Lacquer #A0307 (thinned and filtered) in a ratio of 1:1 or =
1:2 by volume.=20
>=20
>Have fun, guys!=20
>=20
>Dr. Gene Neill=20
>Mayo, Florida=20

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<DIV>Neat idea about the fishing rod, Phil.&nbsp;. . .</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>But along those same lines, Mejiro also sells a 500 mm tool, called =
their=20
"Ji" Spatula, #A0320, for "easily applying 'ji' to the interior of the=20
shakuhachi".&nbsp; And they have a similar&nbsp;"Ji" Application Rod, "A =
bamboo=20
rod with special tip for easy application of the 'ji' to the inside of =
the=20
shakuhachi."&nbsp; And, finally, they have a "Ji" Finishing Rod, an =
aluminum=20
angle rod "to even out the 'ji' already applied to the inside of the=20
shakuhachi."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Domo arigato gozaimashita!</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Gene&nbsp;</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dphilip_horan@hotmail.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:philip_horan@hotmail.com">Philip Horan</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  title=3DShakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
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n.ucsd.edu</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 03, 2003 =
4:22=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Lacquer?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P>Just a note to Gene's advice. At the shakuhachi-making workshops in =
Mejiro=20
  they add a dash of a starch-based glue (yello in colour used for =
paper, etc.)=20
  to give the mixture of tonoko, water and sejime the right texture. =
Another=20
  piece of advice is to even out the ji with the end piece of a fishing =
rod.=20
  These can be bought from fishing stores without the loops and have the =
perfect=20
  flexibility for shak bores. Phil.<BR><BR></P></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Gene" <OLDMANRIVER@ALLTEL.NET>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <SHAKUHACHI@COMMUNICATION.UCSD.EDU>
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Lacquer?=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 10:33:41 -0400=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;For you newbies like me who have been looking for =
lacquer, I've=20
  searched the net everywhere, and I believe Mejiro is the only way to =
go . . .=20
  .=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Here's what Mejiro says:=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;If you want to "ji" your bore, you buy a tube (or more) =
of=20
  their Seshime Lacquer #A0301, thin it with "turpentine oil or gasoline =
(their=20
  recommendation)", filter it through their Miyoshino Paper #A0315, and =
apply a=20
  thin layer "to flatten the inside surface of the flute".=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Then you buy a package of their Tonoko Powder #A0300, =
mix it=20
  with water, they say, then with Seshime, at a rate of 2:1 Tonoko to =
Sheshime,=20
  by weight, which will give you a texture similar to paint. Using their =
spatula=20
  or brush, you apply in a number of thin layers.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;To finish, if you want a gloss black lacquer bore, you =
buy a=20
  tube of their Black Finishing Lacquer #A0305, thin it with "turpentine =
or=20
  gasoline", filter it through their Miyoshino Paper and apply to the =
bore. They=20
  sell special brushes for this purpose. It requires no polishing after=20
  application.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;If you want a red lacquer bore, you buy a tube of their =
Shuai=20
  Lacquer #A0307, a brown almost clear lacquer, thin it with "turpentine =
or=20
  gasoline", filter it through the Miyoshino Paper, then mix it with =
their=20
  Shu-no-Ko powder #A0309 and apply in thin layers. Or you can buy a =
tube of=20
  their Shu-no-Moto #A0308, thin and filter it, and mix it with the =
above Shuai=20
  Lacquer #A0307 (thinned and filtered) in a ratio of 1:1 or 1:2 by =
volume.=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Have fun, guys!=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Dr. Gene Neill=20
  <DIV></DIV>&gt;Mayo, Florida=20
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