Re: Lacquer skinny?

From: Gene (oldmanriver@alltel.net)
Date: Mon Nov 10 2003 - 20:47:26 PST


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    Don't they still use lacquer in painting cars?=20

    Apparently not. The custom paint shops tell me they do not use it. =
I have not even been able to find two-part Dupont Imron for a =
substitute!

    Auto supply center?

    Absolutely not. I tried 6 or 8 of them, and the only lacquer they =
sell - if it is lacquer at all - is the 1/2 oz touchup bottles for $3 =
each. But it probably is not lacquer anyway.

     I used to work in an auto parts store eons ago, and I think they =
still use lacquer for custom work. Could be it still comes in clear or =
red or black.=20

    My wife and I have tried for months without avail.

    THE ONLY SUPPLIER I could find is www.restorersupplies.com and I =
bought four 2 oz bottles of their "Lacquer Pint Magenta" at $5/oz! And =
I have it lying on my desk in front of me right this moment. But is it =
lacquer?

    The actual page for their "lacquer" is =
http://pages.restorersupplies.com/5943/InventoryPage/1315341/1.html

    Is it from the urushi tree?

    ANOTHER THING: Monty Levenson does not use lacquer on his =
shakuhachi, in places where he tells the public it is lacquer. He sent =
a bottle of his "urushi" to me, and I also have it here in my hand. And =
his label says, "SIMULATED Urushi Lacquer". And it is PRECISELY the =
same color as the "lacquer" I bought from restorers, the bottles are =
similar and the labels and label printing are identical. I would wager =
anything Monty is getting his SIMULATED lacquer from restorers, just =
like I did. But is it urushi lacquer. If it were, Monty would say so.

    Bottom line - I do not believe it is possible to buy urushi or =
lacquer in America, but I was hoping someone would tell me I am wrong.

    Oh, I want to pick up my new shakuhachi and play - but Dorothy's =
asleep again. Her sleep is definitely and rudely cutting in on my =
shakuhachi playing!

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    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
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    size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Don't they still use lacquer in =
painting cars?=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
    color=3D#ff0000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Apparently =
not.&nbsp; The custom=20
    paint shops tell me they do not use it.&nbsp; I have not even been =
able to=20
    find two-part Dupont Imron for a substitute!</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
    size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B></B></FONT></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
    size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Auto supply =
center?</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
    color=3D#ff0000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>Absolutely =
not.&nbsp; I tried 6=20
    or 8 of them, and the only lacquer they sell - if it is lacquer at =
all - is=20
    the 1/2 oz touchup bottles for $3 each.&nbsp; But it probably is not =
lacquer=20
    anyway.</B></FONT></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
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    <DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 face=3D"Copperplate =
Gothic Bold"=20
    size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"><B>&nbsp;I used to work in an auto =
parts store=20
    eons ago, and I think they still use lacquer for custom work. Could =
be it=20
    still comes in clear or red or black.</B></FONT> </FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>My wife and I have =
tried for=20
    months without avail.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>THE ONLY SUPPLIER I =
could find=20
    is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://www.restorersupplies.com">www.restorersupplies.com</A>&nbs=
p;and=20
    I bought four 2 oz bottles of their "Lacquer Pint Magenta" at =
$5/oz!&nbsp;=20
    And I have it lying on my desk in front of me&nbsp;right this =
moment.&nbsp;=20
    But is it lacquer?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>The actual page for =
their=20
    "lacquer" is <A=20
    =
href=3D"http://pages.restorersupplies.com/5943/InventoryPage/1315341/1.ht=
ml">http://pages.restorersupplies.com/5943/InventoryPage/1315341/1.html=
A></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>Is it from the =
urushi=20
    tree?</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>ANOTHER THING:&nbsp; =
Monty=20
    Levenson does not use lacquer on his shakuhachi, in places where he =
tells=20
    the public it is lacquer.&nbsp; He sent a bottle of his "urushi" to =
me, and=20
    I also have it here in my hand.&nbsp; And his label says, "SIMULATED =
Urushi=20
    Lacquer".&nbsp; And it is PRECISELY the same color as the "lacquer" =
I bought=20
    from restorers, the bottles are similar and the labels and label =
printing=20
    are identical.&nbsp; I would wager anything Monty is getting his =
SIMULATED=20
    lacquer from restorers, just like I did.&nbsp; But is it urushi=20
    lacquer.&nbsp; If it were, Monty would say so.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>Bottom line - I do =
not believe=20
    it is possible to buy urushi or lacquer in America, but I was hoping =
someone=20
    would tell me I am wrong.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#ff0000>Oh, I want to pick =
up my new=20
    shakuhachi and play - but Dorothy's asleep again.&nbsp; Her sleep is =

    definitely and rudely cutting in on my shakuhachi=20
    playing!</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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color=3D#ff0000></FONT></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
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