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No, Bret, poison sumac is a small shrub, bush or vine.
Urushi is a large tree.
Gene
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Brett Breitwieser=20
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Urushi
I'm wondering if there is any relationship between the "poison sumac" =
I used to see in the fields growing up as a kid in Ohio (a beautiful =
plant BTW but I've heard some real sad stories about kids eating it), =
the Persian sumac that I eat on my bread in the morning, and the sumac =
used in urushi? Would eating the sumac serve as a homeopathic for the =
other variety? I know some people don't like the stuff at all, but I =
love it (quite sour tasting)... it would be funny if I was "varnishing" =
my insides all this years like a big ol' Shakuhachi... could start a new =
school or something: singing honkyo...
Rev. Brett Breitwieser (zen@arizuma.us)
Arizuma Zen Fellowship
http://arizuma.us
"The clouds evaporate in the cold sky.
The autumn has departed and the mountain is barren.=20
This is where we originally dwell." -Hongzhi
-----Original Message-----
From: Johntcoker@aol.com [mailto:Johntcoker@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 2:02 PM
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: Urushi
Aother thought on the urushi/homeopathic thing -=20
Making a homeopathic Rx of urushi, itself, is a simple matter. =
Dissolve one drop of urushi in 100 drops of water (this can be =
approximate, for your own use) in a small glass container with a top. =
Succus - apply mechanical motion to the container. This is done by =
hitting the bottom of the container on a surface, such as a book. =
Succus about 50 times. Pour the liquid out (there'll be plenty =
"hanging" on the walls of the container to "make" the Rx). Fill the =
container with clear water in an amount equal to what you poured out. =
Repeat this procedure about 10 times. You will then have a "10" potency =
of urushi. It won't be 10c or 10x, as those denote 1 drop of urushi to =
100, or to 10, drops of water, respectively. For "home Rx" purposes =
like this, that precision isn't important. To "take" the Rx, place 2 =
drops of it under the tongue. That's it. =20
It's OK to use this "casual" procedure for the type of purpose we're =
discussing. For anything else, you're a lot better off obtaining a Rx =
made to strict standards by a homeopathic pharmacy, and consulting an =
experienced homeopath about need and dosage. It's just as possible to =
screw things up with a homeopathic Rx as it is to make things better. =
The general homeopathic rule is "less is best". =20
jtc
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<DIV>No, Bret, poison sumac is a small shrub, bush or vine.</DIV>
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<DIV>Urushi is a large tree.</DIV>
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<DIV>Gene</DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dbrett@bigskyranch.us =
href=3D"mailto:brett@bigskyranch.us">Brett=20
Breitwieser</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3DShakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
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href=3D"mailto:Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu">Shakuhachi@communicatio=
n.ucsd.edu</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, 2003 =
4:34=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Urushi</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D137242621-14112003>I'm=20
wondering if there is any relationship between the "poison sumac" I =
used to=20
see in the fields growing up as a kid in Ohio (a beautiful plant BTW =
but I've=20
heard some real sad stories about kids eating it), the Persian =
sumac that=20
I eat on my bread in the morning, and the sumac used in urushi? =
Would=20
eating the sumac serve as a homeopathic for the other variety? I know =
some=20
people don't like the stuff at all, but I love it (quite sour =
tasting)... it=20
would be funny if I was "varnishing" my insides all this years like a =
big ol'=20
Shakuhachi... could start a new school or something: singing=20
honkyo...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DBatang size=3D2><STRONG>Rev. Brett Breitwieser (<A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:zen@arizuma.us">zen@arizuma.us</A>)</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBatang size=3D2>Arizuma Zen=20
Fellowship</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DBatang size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"http://arizuma.us/">http://arizuma.us></FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>"The clouds evaporate in the cold=20
sky.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>The autumn has departed and the mountain =
is barren.=20
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2>This is where we originally dwell."=20
-Hongzhi</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=3D2></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
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face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Johntcoker@aol.com =
[mailto:Johntcoker@aol.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 14, 2003 =
2:02=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Re:=20
Urushi<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
face=3D"Tempus Sans ITC" size=3D2 FAMILY=3D"DECORATIVE">Aother thought =
on the=20
urushi/homeopathic thing - <BR><BR>Making a homeopathic Rx of urushi, =
itself,=20
is a simple matter. Dissolve one drop of urushi in 100 drops of =
water=20
(this can be approximate, for your own use) in a small glass container =
with a=20
top. Succus - apply mechanical motion to the container. =
This is=20
done by hitting the bottom of the container on a surface, such as a =
book.=20
Succus about 50 times. Pour the liquid out (there'll be =
plenty=20
"hanging" on the walls of the container to "make" the Rx). Fill =
the=20
container with clear water in an amount equal to what you poured out.=20
Repeat this procedure about 10 times. You will then have a =
"10"=20
potency of urushi. It won't be 10c or 10x, as those denote 1 =
drop of=20
urushi to 100, or to 10, drops of water, respectively. For "home =
Rx"=20
purposes like this, that precision isn't important. To "take" =
the Rx,=20
place 2 drops of it under the tongue. That's it. =
<BR><BR>It's OK=20
to use this "casual" procedure for the type of purpose we're =
discussing.=20
For anything else, you're a <I>lot</I> better off obtaining a Rx =
made to=20
strict standards by a homeopathic pharmacy, and consulting an =
experienced=20
homeopath about need and dosage. It's just as possible to screw =
things=20
up with a homeopathic Rx as it is to make things better. The =
general=20
homeopathic rule is "less is best". <BR><BR>jtc</FONT>=20
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