Re: japanese translator

From: Gene Neill (oldmanriver@alltel.net)
Date: Mon Dec 01 2003 - 21:22:53 PST

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Bart, here's the URL Carlos wants to translate: =
http://search5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/search/auc?p=3D%BC%DC%C8%AC&auccat=
=3D22652&alocale=3D0jp&acc=3Djp

I get the same identical results through Alta Vista's Babel Fish as with =
your Infoseek, except the Babel Fish seems faster.

Do you get different results from Infoseek than you get through =
AltaVista? I believe both sites are using the same Systran software, =
aren't they?

Understand, please, I'm not arguing at all; I want to learn, and I =
particularly want to get the best translation.

Thanks!

Gene Neill
Mayo, Florida
www.shakuhachi.ws

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Bart Reinier=20
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:02 PM
  Subject: RE: japanese translator

Carlos,

=20

I think this is one of the better translators

=20

http://www.infoseek.co.jp/Honyaku?pg=3Dhonyaku_top.html

=20

You still get some weird and silly stuff, but at least most of the =
words are in English.

=20

Bart =20

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Mejia, Carlos [mailto:carlos.mejia@intel.com]
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 1:51 PM
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
  Subject: japanese translator

=20

Gene,

=20

Since the site is in Japanese, what is your process for translating? =
I ran it through the altavista Babel Fish Translation tool which you =
sent out a while back but only got garbage out. =
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr. Do you read Japanese?

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Carlos

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<DIV>Bart, here's the URL Carlos wants to translate:  <A=20
href=3D"http://search5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/search/auc?p=3D%BC%DC%C8%A=
C&auccat=3D22652&alocale=3D0jp&acc=3Djp">http://search5.aucti=
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cale=3D0jp&acc=3Djp</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I get the same identical results through Alta Vista's Babel =
Fish as=20
with your Infoseek, except the Babel Fish seems faster.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do you get different results from Infoseek than you get through=20
AltaVista?  I believe both sites are using the same Systran =
software,=20
aren't they?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Understand, please, I'm not arguing at all; I want to learn, and I=20
particularly want to get the best translation.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Gene Neill</DIV>
<DIV>Mayo, Florida</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www.shakuhachi.ws">www.shakuhachi.ws</A></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: japanese =
translator</DIV>
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Mejia,=20
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  the site is in Japanese, what is your process for =
translating?   I=20
  ran it through the altavista Babel Fish Translation tool which you =
sent out a=20
  while back but only got garbage out=85 <A=20
  =
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