Re: [Shaku] Pomade for Nakatsugi

From: Feadog@aol.com
Date: Sun Feb 01 2004 - 14:54:00 PST


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You can get a little more info on Tom's web site, under "Loose Connecting=20
Joint". No explanation as to why cork grease isn't any good, and pomade is g=
ood.=20

http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~shaku100/rep.html

"LOOSE CONNECTING JOINT =E3=80=80This happens with putting your shakuhachi t=
ogether=20
and taking it apart a few times without any lubricant on the surfaces. Repai=
r=20
involves painting the joint with black urushi, perhaps a few times, to make=20=
it=20
tighter. Care must be taken to not allow to much taper in either the mortise=
=20
or the tenon so the joint will not slide open by itself. The joint must not=20=
be=20
so tight that, when put together, it will split the upper part of the flute.=
=20
So be sure to keep the joint surfaces lubricated with some sort of grease. C=
ork=20
grease for other instruments is not so good. The best in Japan seems to be=20
Yanigiya Pomade hair grease, also perfumed. Bicycle grease is may be OK. Try=
=20
various types."

Bill

In a message dated 2/1/2004 5:17:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
kyoung@itsa.ucsf.edu writes:
Thanks for the tip re. what to use on joints; does anyone know the=20
criteria that that recommendation is based on ? I've been using cork=20
grease that's sold for keeping the cork on the joints of woodwind=20
instruments from drying out. I'm not exactly sure what it contains; it=20
seems pretty harmless, but I'd be interested to know if e.g. this is=20
slowly eroding the lacquer and that I should switch to Yanagiya Pomade.

> Hello,
> =20
> Gene asked me to post this for him.
> =20
> "Tom Deaver recommends the WATER-based Japanese YANAGIYA POMADE for=20
> all his nakatsugi joints, and Nagase Kenji and I recommend it for the=20
> ABS plastic Yuu nakatsugi. Tom Deaver mailed mine to me, thank you=20
> Tom, but it is now available online, from Japan, by credit card of=20
> PayPal from=20
> http://www.shop-japan.co.jp/english-boku/komusou-goods5-s.htm. And=20
> this particular store also sells some descent shakuhachi and all sorts=20
> of shakuhachi and komuso related gear. I recommend them highly. Gene=20
> Neill."
> =20
> Bill

--=20
Karl Young
University of California, SF Phone: (415) 221-4810 x3114 lab
VA Medical Center, MRS Unit (114M) (415) 750-9463 home
4150 Clement Street FAX: (415) 668-2864
San Francisco, CA 94121 Email: kyoung@itsa.ucsf.edu

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<DIV>You can get a little more info on Tom's web site, under "Loose Connecti=
ng Joint". No explanation as to why cork grease isn't any good, and pomade i=
s good. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><A href=3D"http://www3.ocn.ne.jp/~shaku100/rep.html">http://www3.ocn.ne=
.jp/~shaku100/rep.html</A></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><U><FONT color=3D#990000>"LOOSE CONNECTING JOINT</FONT></U> =E3=80=80Th=
is happens with putting your shakuhachi together and taking it apart a few t=
imes without any lubricant on the surfaces. Repair involves painting the joi=
nt with black urushi, perhaps a few times, to make it tighter. Care must be=20=
taken to not allow to much taper in either the mortise or the tenon so the j=
oint will not slide open by itself. The joint must not be so tight that, whe=
n put together, it will split the upper part of the flute. So be sure to kee=
p the joint surfaces lubricated with some sort of grease. Cork grease for ot=
her instruments is not so good. The best in Japan seems to be Yanigiya Pomad=
e hair grease, also perfumed. Bicycle grease is may be OK. Try various types=
."</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Bill<BR></DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 2/1/2004 5:17:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, kyoung@it=
sa.ucsf.edu writes:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20=
2px solid"><FONT face=3DArial>Thanks for the tip re. what to use on joints;=20=
does anyone know the <BR>criteria that that recommendation is based on ? I'v=
e been using cork <BR>grease that's sold for keeping the cork on the joints=20=
of woodwind <BR>instruments from drying out. I'm not exactly sure what it co=
ntains; it <BR>seems pretty harmless, but I'd be interested to know if e.g.=20=
this is <BR>slowly eroding the lacquer and that I should switch to Yanagiya=20=
Pomade.<BR><BR>&gt; Hello,<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Gene asked me to post this=
 for him.<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; "Tom Deaver recommends the WATER-based Japa=
nese YANAGIYA POMADE for <BR>&gt; all his nakatsugi joints, and Nagase Kenji=
 and I recommend it for the <BR>&gt; ABS plastic Yuu nakatsugi.&nbsp; Tom De=
aver mailed mine to me, thank you <BR>&gt; Tom, but it is now available onli=
ne, from Japan, by credit card of <BR>&gt; PayPal from <BR>&gt; http://www.s=
hop-japan.co.jp/english-boku/komusou-goods5-s.htm.&nbsp; And <BR>&gt; this p=
articular store also sells some descent shakuhachi and all sorts <BR>&gt; of=
 shakuhachi and komuso related gear.&nbsp; I recommend them highly.&nbsp; Ge=
ne <BR>&gt; Neill."<BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; Bill<BR><BR><BR>-- <BR>Karl Young=
<BR>University of California, SF&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Phone:&nb=
sp; (415) 221-4810 x3114&nbsp; lab<BR>VA Medical Center, MRS Unit (114M)&nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; (415) 750-9463&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; home<BR>4150 Clement Street&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nb=
sp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; FAX:&nbsp; &nbsp; (415) 668-2864<BR>San Francisco, C=
A 94121&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Email:&nbsp; k=
young@itsa.ucsf.edu</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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