RE: [Shaku] Re: Help in Understanding

From: Dan Gutwein (dangutwein@comcast.net)
Date: Thu Jan 06 2005 - 13:06:36 PST


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Hi all,
 
This is so important to me --- Thank you all for such a good dialogue.
 
I've been separating my meditation (with Shakuhachi) from my practice of
the instrument with the goal of playing it better. Kyosei, of all the
Zen Buddhist traditions - I am most attracted to Soto, so I am quite
interested in your response to this. Do you think this separation of
practices is necessary? Trying to put it clearer, do you think that it
is possible to meditate with "big mind" (a beginner's mind) and still
concentrate on playing a honkyoku, any other piece, or simply a
difficult high note "well"?
 
Dan
http://www.dangutwein.com <http://www.dangutwein.com/>
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: KYOSEI1@aol.com [mailto:KYOSEI1@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:35 PM
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [Shaku] Re: Help in Understanding
 
Happy New Year Riley,
 
Keep up the good work for at least another 35 years.
 
Let me try to make myself clearer, anything that is practice (kai) is
reaching for perfection without that perfection being a goal, what is
important is the process of reaching. If the Shakuhachi is part of Zen
liturgical practice then the process of reaching for perfection in
playing is what that practice is.
 
The question of what is perfection or what is reaching becomes the
question to be answered. The practice is alive within you and the
answers are found in Zazen. If the instrument is not part of Zen
liturgical practice then it is an instrument to be played and mastered.
 
In Gassho
 
Kyosei

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Thank you
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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meditation
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playing
it better.<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Kyosei, of all =
the Zen
Buddhist traditions &#8211; I am most attracted to Soto, so I am quite
interested in your response to this.<span =
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</span>Do you think this separation of practices is necessary?<span
style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>Trying to put it clearer, do =
you think
that it is possible to meditate with &#8220;big mind&#8221; (a =
beginner&#8217;s
mind) and still concentrate on playing a honkyoku, any other piece, or =
simply a
difficult high note &#8220;well&#8221;?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
KYOSEI1@aol.com
[mailto:KYOSEI1@aol.com] <br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January =
06, 2005
12:35 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Shaku] Re: =
Help in
Understanding</span></font></p>

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try to make myself clearer, anything that is practice (kai) is reaching =
for
perfection without that perfection&nbsp;being a goal, what is important =
is the
process of reaching. If the Shakuhachi is part of Zen liturgical =
practice then
the process of reaching for perfection in playing is what that practice =
is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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to be
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Zazen.
If the instrument is not part of Zen liturgical&nbsp;practice then it
is&nbsp;an instrument to be played and =
mastered.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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