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So why do commuters have to pay $27 a day?
Can i stay for $8 a night, because i only eat my own food.
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From: Bruce Jones=20
To: shakuhachi@weber.ucsd.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:17 PM
Subject: [Shaku] On Festivals and Costs
>I don't think someone charging me $60 per night to put my 6 foot=20
>square tent on a piece of ground is very nice "delusion" at all! =20
>I could accept $375 if i was allowed to put my tent somewhere for =
free.=20
It's not $60/night to pitch a tent. It's $60/day for that tent
space, food, and all the associated costs of maintaining a
campground (restrooms, showers, cleanup, etc.) of which $52 is for
food alone. So it's $8/day for pitching your tent. I find that=20
pretty reasonable.
Appended below is a message I thought I'd sent to the list, but
apparently only went to one person (ah, those "To:" lines, how they
trip us up):
>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 17:20:13 -0000, stan <b@didgethings.co.uk> wrote:
> That's a complete rip off!=20
So, you've been to the festival? You've had the opportunity to
study with the likes of Riley Lee, Yoshio Kurahashi, Michael Gould,
et.al.? Enjoyed a long weekend of good teachers, good company, good
food, and the support of the shakuhachi sanga?
I pay my teacher, Masakazu Yoshizawa his mimimum fee plus a bit.
I make a decent living and don't give away my time to my employers.
I see no reason why any teacher, particulaly one who is a world-class
musician (which easily includes those mentioned above) should do
so either. He sometimes comments that I pay him too much. My
response is always the same: if students don't support teachers,
there will be no teachers.
If festival participants don't support festivals, there will be no
festivals.
bj
p.s. and if this festival is too rich for your pocketbook, you can
always run one of your own. The suggested one on the farm in
upstate NY (if I remember correctly) sounds like fun. We run a
sort of mini-festival in San Francisco when Riley and Kurahashi
come to town.
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<DIV><BR></DIV><BR>>I don't think someone charging me $60 per night =
to put=20
my 6 foot <BR>>square tent on a piece of ground is very nice =
"delusion" at=20
all! <BR>>I could accept $375 if i was allowed to put my tent =
somewhere for free. <BR><BR>It's not $60/night to pitch a tent. =
It's=20
$60/day for that tent<BR>space, food, and all the associated costs of=20
maintaining a<BR>campground (restrooms, showers, cleanup, etc.) of =
which $52=20
is for<BR>food alone. So it's $8/day for pitching your =
tent. I=20
find that <BR>pretty reasonable.<BR><BR>Appended below is a message I =
thought=20
I'd sent to the list, but<BR>apparently only went to one person (ah, =
those=20
"To:" lines, how they<BR>trip us up):<BR><BR>>On Thu, 10 Mar 2005 =
17:20:13=20
-0000, stan <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:b@didgethings.co.uk">b@didgethings.co.uk</A>> =
wrote:<BR>>=20
That's a complete rip off! <BR><BR>So, you've been to the =
festival? =20
You've had the opportunity to<BR>study with the likes of Riley Lee, =
Yoshio=20
Kurahashi, Michael Gould,<BR>et.al.? Enjoyed a long weekend of =
good=20
teachers, good company, good<BR>food, and the support of the =
shakuhachi=20
sanga?<BR><BR>I pay my teacher, Masakazu Yoshizawa his mimimum fee =
plus a=20
bit.<BR>I make a decent living and don't give away my time to my=20
employers.<BR>I see no reason why any teacher, particulaly one who is =
a=20
world-class<BR>musician (which easily includes those mentioned above) =
should=20
do<BR>so either. He sometimes comments that I pay him too =
much. =20
My<BR>response is always the same: if students don't support=20
teachers,<BR>there will be no teachers.<BR><BR>If festival =
participants don't=20
support festivals, there will be =
no<BR>festivals.<BR><BR>bj<BR><BR>p.s. and if=20
this festival is too rich for your pocketbook, you can<BR>always run =
one of=20
your own. The suggested one on the farm in<BR>upstate NY (if I =
remember=20
correctly) sounds like fun. We run a<BR>sort of mini-festival in =
San=20
Francisco when Riley and Kurahashi<BR>come to=20
=
town.<BR><BR>-<BR>_____________________________________________<BR><BR>Li=
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