Re: [Shaku] shakuhachi

From: Dale Koenig (ourtrouvere@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 12 2005 - 09:29:19 PST


<html><div style='background-color:'><P>It is all a matter of choice..................&nbsp;&nbsp;If&nbsp;one's work is teaching, by all means there should be a charge for&nbsp;lessons.&nbsp; If one chooses to&nbsp;give lessons without&nbsp;charge then so be it.&nbsp; I studied with Ronnie for a number of years&nbsp;always felt that the price for the lesson was more than fair.&nbsp; Especially considering his&nbsp;rank and experience.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;One couldn't get&nbsp;that&nbsp;value for the price in any other musical&nbsp;venue.&nbsp; I'm also a singer and to get a lesson from a top teacher it is not unusual to&nbsp;pay $100.00 + for a lesson.&nbsp;&nbsp; And&nbsp;even at that price you won't&nbsp;get the&nbsp;return&nbsp;of value that you'd&nbsp;get from&nbsp;a lesson with Ronnie.&nbsp; &nbsp;</P>
<P>I've taught lessons both for pay and no pay.&nbsp; For me it was the circumstances surrounding them.&nbsp;&nbsp;I have another job where I earn a living.&nbsp;&nbsp;And&nbsp;my students were young&nbsp;people and prepairing for scholastic performances so I was glad to donate&nbsp;my time in instructions.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If an adult wanted to study I'd probably charge a nominal rate.&nbsp;&nbsp; But I don't depend upon teachning to make my living. </P>
<P>Again it comes down to choice.</P>
<P><FONT face="Lucida Handwriting, Cursive" size=6><FONT size=3>Dale</FONT>&nbsp; <IMG height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emwink.gif" width=12></FONT></P>&gt;From: "NYOGETSU@NYC.RR.COM" &lt;NYOGETSU@nyc.rr.com&gt; &gt;Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu &gt;To: Bruce Jones &lt;Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu&gt; &gt;Subject: Re: [Shaku] shakuhachi &gt;Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:59:37 -0500 &gt; &gt;Dear Shakuhachi List, &gt; &gt;I have been following this thread for some time, and while my husband is &gt;away in Mexico teaching I feel compelled to speak for him. &gt; &gt;Ronnie has worked very hard to be able to make his living from shakuhachi. &gt;For that I am very proud of him. He has also inspired many of his students &gt;in the last few years to do the same. &gt; &gt;To suggest that he should teach for free is ludicrous. How should we pay &gt;our bills? Should he
get another full-time job, one that he doesn't like, &gt;so that he can teach people like you for free? &gt; &gt;If you're complaining about his prices, but yet claim to really want to &gt;study with him, then here's my suggestion: barter. Ronnie has students that &gt;can't afford to pay, so they do work exchange with me on our land in upstate &gt;NY. We can also barter for other things. So if you really want to study &gt;with my husband there is a way, but if you want to get it for free or in an &gt;exchange for your pretty smile it ain't gonna happen! &gt; &gt;Ronnie already does his own volunteer work at hospitals, for the elderly, &gt;etc. &gt; &gt;What people may not know is that during the time of preparation for the NYC &gt;Shakuhachi Festival Ronnie had a severe heart attack, whose effects are &gt;still felt today. In spite of this, he persevered and helped to create a
&gt;wonderful festival. &gt; &gt;I do not appreciate you talking about my husband's weight. You say you are &gt;not trying to be "mean", but I think that you are. What place does this &gt;type of commentary have on this list? You say you respect these teachers &gt;but yet, couching it in terms of concern, you denigrate them. If you were &gt;really concerned for my husband's health then you would contact him &gt;personally and privately. That is the generous compassionate thing to do. &gt; &gt;Yours truly, &gt; &gt;Brenda Seldin &gt;"Proud Wife of Shakuhachi Grand Master" &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I'm glad that I said what I said and got this &gt; &gt; discussion going. Because people have to know these &gt; &gt; things and they have to be acknowledged. If I feel a &gt; &gt; certain way, there is a reason for this.... &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I want to say Perry Yung is
awesome..... &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I want to say Ronnie Seldon is awesome at playing &gt; &gt; shakuhachi but I question alot about him.... I wish he &gt; &gt; would get on a excersice/diet plan because it would be &gt; &gt; nice to have him around awhile to play his &gt; &gt; shakuhachi.... I dont mean this in a mean way... I &gt; &gt; also wish that he didnt charge 60 dollars a lesson. &gt; &gt; Isnt there exceptions for poor people that have heart &gt; &gt; and soul and wanna learn real bad???? Ive had no &gt; &gt; teacher for 4 years and still play everyday and even &gt; &gt; make my own flutes and give them away....this is &gt; &gt; dedication.... I think I deserve a good teacher but &gt; &gt; if none show up then I will be a good teacher....... &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I wanna say if anyone is in Japan call this man he is &gt; &gt; awesome - more awesome than any other shakuhachi &gt;
&gt; player Ive heard of &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hirobe, Chikutei &gt; &gt; 229 5-19-3 Hashimoto, &gt; &gt; Saganihara - shi, Kanagawa &gt; &gt; tel: 042-773-6113 &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; He has played shakuhachi since he was 5 and he is now &gt; &gt; a retired tokyo university proffesor. He taught me &gt; &gt; shakuhachi for 2 months for free then I had to come &gt; &gt; back to NY State. I wanted to pay him but he said no &gt; &gt; - pay me with your dedication to the flute. He let me &gt; &gt; touch/play his 30,000 dollar flute. He plays live &gt; &gt; concerts with his 80 year old uncle. his 80 year old &gt; &gt; uncle is his teacher. &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Screw politics, screw money -heart and soul is all you &gt; &gt; have when you die people.......... &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; __________________________________ &gt; &gt; Do you Yahoo!? &gt; &gt; Make Yahoo! your home page &gt;
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