I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on this
subject. I can only play without the sense of an
audience when I close my eyes. oh, and beer
helps...... but not to much. haha - But I'm only
playing around a few people at a time and they are
people that I am friends with. Also I know that by
myself I feel and sound better than with others
watching me. So thats why I try to work on playing
with others around.
Ive already forgotten the previous heated topic and am
leaving that to the past because I said what I had to
say and can't keep pushing the same buttons or risk
being a burden to some folks. However I think my
point was made and maybe I look dumb for saying
it...I'm just trying to change the world for the
better like the young in every generation before me.
I guess the world will keep getting faster and faster
untill no one can survive anymore or perhaps a climax
has to be reached and something drastic happens to
change it for good....... Sorry for only being 26
years old and hopefull. Maybe things are cool were
some of you people live but remember millions are
suffering all around.....
mentally challenged,
Jason
--- Bruce Jones <bjones@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> >From: John Baker <jinpa19822003@yahoo.com>
> >
> >Honkyoku seems to me to be Zen as public display.
>
> I saved this snippet because I wanted to pursue this
> a bit once the
> furor died down.
>
> I agree, honkyoku is zen as public display. My
> question is, what
> else could it be? Certainly pieces like Hi Fu Mi
> Hachigaeshi were
> meant to be played in public, and pieces like Kumoi
> Jishi were meant
> to be played at least in the public of the temple.
> Even if monks
> played Mukaiji or Kyorei in the privacy of their
> cells, they had to
> be playing with the knowledge that the sounds could
> be heard by
> others.
>
> I don't know how widespread the practice is, but I
> know that Riley
> asks people not to applaud following honkyoku pieces
> in his
> concerts. I think this is appropriate and
> appreciate his request,
> particularly because it offers him a chance to talk
> about religious
> music and the shakuhachi.
>
> Are there traditions of "religious" music (quotes
> because the extent
> to which zen is a religion is an open question) that
> deliberately
> don't involve any opportunity for an audience?
> (Aside of course,
> from music accompanyment on hermitage).
>
> Even given the meditation aspects of suizen, can one
> play without a
> sense of "audience"? That is, without taking into
> consideration all
> of the surrounding environment?
>
> bj
>
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