Re: Seritsukan & Seisunkan ??

From: Thomas W Hare (thare@Princeton.EDU)
Date: Mon Mar 11 2002 - 07:03:40 PST

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I'm not familiar with these terms myself, but putting two and two
together from Zachary's and Tony's comments, I'd be willing to bet that
Seiritsukan means something like "a flute in the proper pitch" and
Seisunkan means something like "a flute of the proper length." I
suspect (for those of you who can display Japanese on your browsers)
that the words are:

正律管　for seiritsukan

and

正寸管　for seisunkan.

Perhaps there's someone out there who can confirm this.

Tom Hare

Zachary Braverman wrote:

> On 02.3.10 3:16 PM, "HeirPhoto@aol.com" <HeirPhoto@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/9/02 11:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> zachary@kotodama.net writes:
>
>
>
> The difference between Seiritsukan and Seisunkan
> is touched on there.
>
> Zachary,
> I had visited this page earlier and read that article but
> still do not understand the terms. I didn't see either
> mentioned. Are these terms used to specify specific lengths?
>
> Thanks,
> Tony
>
> Anthony D. Miller & Co.
> ~ The Tintype Artist ~
> Ambrotypes & Ferrotypes
> 34 Perryfalls Place
> Baltimore, Maryland 21236
> 410-256-7442
> http://members.aol.com/likenesses
>
> Tony,
>
> The terms are not used explicitly, but here is the paragraph:
>
> メBy the way, it is said that the pitch of a shakuhachi goes down by
> half a note for every sun that is added in length, but in reality this
> is true only around the standard 1.8 length. The longer the bamboo,
> the more length you need to add on to achieve a full half-note
> downshift. For example, going by the メhalf-step for each sunモ
> principle, a 2.3 length flute should be a perfect fourth away from a
> 1.8, but in actuality you need a 2.4 flute to achieve a perfect 4 from
> a 1.8. This creates some confusion, since some people call the メAモ
> pitch flute a 2.3 while others call it a 2.4.モ
>
> One of these is a メSeiritsukanモ and one is a メSeisunkanモ, but I forget
> at the moment which is which!
>
> Best,
>
> Zachary Braverman

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I'm not familiar with these terms myself, but putting two and two together
from Zachary's and Tony's comments, I'd be willing to bet that Seiritsukan
means something like "a flute in the proper pitch" and Seisunkan means
something like "a flute of the proper length."  I suspect (for those
of you who can display Japanese on your browsers) that  the words
are:
正律管　for seiritsukan
and
正寸管　for seisunkan.
Perhaps there's someone out there who can confirm this.
Tom Hare
Zachary Braverman wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>On 02.3.10 3:16 PM, "HeirPhoto@aol.com"
<HeirPhoto@aol.com> wrote:
  
<blockquote>In a message dated 3/9/02
11:29:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, zachary@kotodama.net writes:
  
  
<blockquote>The difference between Seiritsukan
and Seisunkan is touched on there.</blockquote>
Zachary,
 I had visited this page earlier and
read that article but still do not understand the terms. I didn't see either
mentioned. Are these terms used to specify specific lengths?
 Thanks,
 Tony
       
Anthony D. Miller & Co.
         
~ The Tintype Artist ~
      
Ambrotypes & Ferrotypes
            
34 Perryfalls Place
     
Baltimore, Maryland 21236
                  
410-256-7442
 <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/likenesses">http://members.aol.com/likenesses></blockquote>
Tony,
The terms are not used explicitly, but here is the
paragraph:
メBy the
way, it is said that the pitch of a shakuhachi goes down by half a note
for every sun that is added in length, but in reality this is true only
around the standard 1.8 length. The longer the bamboo, the more length
you need to add on to achieve a full half-note downshift. For example,
going by the メhalf-step for each sunモ principle, a 2.3 length flute should
be a perfect fourth away from a 1.8, but in actuality you need a 2.4 flute
to achieve a perfect 4 from a 1.8. This creates some confusion, since some
people call the メAモ pitch flute a 2.3 while others call it a 2.4.モ
One of these is a メSeiritsukanモ and
one is a メSeisunkanモ, but I forget at the moment which is which!
Best,
Zachary Braverman</blockquote>
</html>

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