RE: PVC second octave-Spanish shak?

From: Javier García Palma (javgpal@terra.es)
Date: Tue Jan 21 2003 - 14:52:21 PST


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Re: PVC second octave-Spanish shak?Dear Julia & Alfredo:

I'm so glad to meet Spanish people who love shakuhachi!!

I was really trapped a years ago when I listened to 'kumoi jishi', a =
traditional japanese song played by a Shaku...

Since that happened, I promised myself to learn this fabulous =
instrument... but here in Spain is pretty hard to find teachers, =
lessons, books or bamboo .....so I have to order stuff from Monty =
Levenson, one of the grand masters shakuhachi makers in the world.

I would like to share with you my experiences!

By the way, I live in Fuengirola, near Malaga (south Spain)
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: JULIA Y ALFREDO=20
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2003 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: PVC second octave-Spanish shak?

  Hello everybody! Hello Javier!
  I am a member of this list since 1998 (maybe more), but I had never =
send an email until today.
  I would like to know if there are more shakuhachi lovers hidden =
Spaniards like me. May be we could create a community or something so!
  I live in Colmenar Viejo, 30 km north from Madrid.

  Hope to have dozens of answers!
  Alfredo.

    De: Javier Garc=EDa Palma <javgpal@terra.es>
    Responder a: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
    Fecha: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 23:27:51 +0100
    Para: <shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu>
    Asunto: PVC second octave

    Hello to everybody! Greetings from Spain!

    I have built seven PVC shakuhachis (1.8, tuned in D)

    I can get all notes of lower (otsu) octave with nice and rich =
sounds, but I have put all my efforts to get any sound of high (kan) =
octave with no results but the first two notes (ro and tsu). I've tried =
hard to 'overblow' to get these sounds. Actually I play silver flute =
with no troubles....These are my theories:

    1. The PVC pipe cannot reach such high frecuencies because of its =
rigid structure...
    2. My technique is wrong.

    What's wrong with PVC and Kan octave??

    Please, enlighten me with your wisdom...

    Thanks in advance.

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Julia &amp; Alfredo:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm so glad to meet Spanish people who =
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shakuhachi!!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was really trapped a years ago when I =
listened to=20
'kumoi jishi', a traditional japanese song played by a =
Shaku...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since that happened, I promised myself =
to learn=20
this fabulous instrument... but here in Spain is pretty hard to find =
teachers,=20
lessons,&nbsp;books or bamboo .....so I have to order stuff =
from&nbsp;Monty=20
Levenson, one of the grand masters shakuhachi makers in the =
world.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I would like to share with you my=20
experiences!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>By the way, I live in Fuengirola, near =
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  <DIV><BR></DIV>Hello everybody! Hello Javier!<BR>I am a member of this =
list=20
  since 1998 (maybe more), but I had never send an email until =
today.<BR>I would=20
  like to know if there are more shakuhachi lovers hidden Spaniards like =
me. May=20
  be we could create a community or something so!<BR>I live in Colmenar =
Viejo,=20
  30 km north from Madrid.<BR><BR>Hope to have dozens of=20
answers!<BR>Alfredo.<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><BR><B>De: </B>Javier Garc=EDa Palma=20
    &lt;javgpal@terra.es&gt;<BR><B>Responder a:=20
    </B>Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu<BR><B>Fecha: </B>Mon, 20 Jan =
2003=20
    23:27:51 +0100<BR><B>Para:=20
    </B>&lt;shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu&gt;<BR><B>Asunto: </B>PVC =
second=20
    octave<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>Hello to everybody! =
Greetings from=20
    Spain!<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>I have =
built seven=20
    PVC shakuhachis (1.8, tuned in D)<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>I can get all notes of lower (otsu) octave with nice =
and rich=20
    sounds, but I have put all my efforts to get any sound of high (kan) =
octave=20
    with no results but the first two notes (ro and tsu). I've tried =
hard to=20
    'overblow' to get these sounds. Actually I play silver flute with no =

    troubles....These are my theories:<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>1. The PVC pipe cannot reach such high frecuencies =
because of its=20
    rigid structure...<BR>2. My technique is =
wrong.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2><FONT face=3DArial>What's wrong with PVC and Kan=20
    octave??<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2><FONT =
face=3DArial>Please,=20
    enlighten me with your wisdom...<BR></FONT></FONT><BR><FONT =
size=3D2><FONT=20
    face=3DArial>Thanks in=20
advance.<BR></FONT></FONT><BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML=
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