Personally I have no problem forgiving Gene but my previous ranting was
about whether or not there's a reasonable hope that he'll make some
effort to try and control his impulses; that's my only question about
letting him back in. If there's another conflagration that grows past a
certain stage I'll probably bail on the group, not because I don't
respect the opinions of others but because I just don't have the time or
energy to sift through volumes of impulsive venom to get to the great
stuff that shows up on the list. I may not be being big enough here and
I don't expect anyone to give a hoot whether or not I quit the list but
I think these are legimate questions. There maybe more than enough
policing in the world today but you're never going to escape it if you
intend to interact with anybody but yourself; it can be done consiously
(and hopefuly flexibly) or not.
> Please let Gene back on the list.
>
> I actually thought an apology was unnecessary, but he didn't.
>
> There is more than enough policing in the world today. Let's be big
> enough to forgive and forget.
>
> I remember after the 9/11 bombing in NYC that a bunch of people quit
> the list because someone took a stance that was more neutral,
> coinciding with the way of world peace as "opposed" to the belligerent
> stance of the American "president". To me, this meant that some
> people on the list were so immature that they couldn't even respect
> the opinions of others.
>
> I would hope Gene be let back, and we maintain a respectable forum
> based on knowledge, and integrity.
>
>
> Marcus Grandon
>
>
> On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 09:45 AM, IieoOoeiI@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Konbanwa, to the shakuhachi list:
>>
>>
>>
>> Someone posted something on the list about me recently, and I
>> responded with my own post.
>>
>>
>>
>> And, instinctively, from my years as a fighting United States Marine
>> and a criminal courtroom brawler and other unthinkable biographical
>> environments - I now realize to my shame I over responded.
>>
>>
>>
>> Significantly.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hit back with just about as much sarcasm and sting as I could.
>>
>>
>>
>> And then someone else piped up, and then another and another, and I
>> whipped back with a large portion indeed of my senile old crotchety
>> 73-year-old fury. These years of steroids - the only things which
>> keep me alive today - give me a whole lot more zeal than brains.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whence I appropriately was stripped of my rank, my saber broken, and
>> I was drummed off the list.
>>
>>
>>
>> And that's well, as they say.
>>
>>
>>
>> Except it leaves something of a haunting pall over all of us and our
>> beloved shakuhachi. What sort of dumb dharma is this? And who ever
>> wants any curtain wring down on a sour note.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I wish to apologize to all the list, most sincerely indeed.
>> Hontou-ni moushiwake-gozaimasen. Gomen-nasai.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to be back on the list, with a significantly more
>> bridled tongue, I assure you, but that option is certainly not a
>> condition of this apology.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm sorry.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you for listening.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gene
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr. Gene Neill
>> PO Box 78
>> Mayo, Florida 32066
>> USA
>> Phone 386-294-1236
>> FAX 386-294-1112
>> www.shakuhachi.ws
>>
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