Ok, I promise this is the last time I'll bug the list about this;=20
obviously I'm a rotten communicator. Everybody seems to saying for=20
chrisakes lighten up, let the guy back in. I think that's fine but can't=20
we also use this as an oppotunity to try and figure out how to make=20
everybody's life a little easier re. sifting through rants ? Can't we=20
just make a trial ruleish type thing like, annoy enough people again=20
you're gone for 2 weeks... I guess that's just not human nature; it=20
seems everybody seems to feel one is either groovy and rule free or the=20
grand inquisitor, ...sigh... I guess Bruce was doing a bang up job=20
anyway; I'll go back under my rock.
>
> My two cents: Let the poor guy back on the list! He is a 73 year old=20
> retiree for God's sake! All he did was write a few e-mails in poor=20
> taste. (Well, I guess in extremely poor taste and with absurdly bad=20
> judgement - but they were still just e-mails.) No one was physically=20
> injured - no one is dead- no property was destroyed. I'm sure=20
> everyones' hurt feelings will feel better in a couple of days. Let's=20
> try to keep a sense of proportion here.
>
> They say a great spiritual practice is to develop your capacity to=20
> tolerate difficult people. So perhaps all of us can see this as a=20
> spiritual and emotional challenge.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> From: Marcus Grandon <mgrandon@tokai.or.jp>
>> Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
>> To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Shaku] FWD from Gene
>> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:04:03 +0900
>>
>> Please let Gene back on the list.
>>
>> I actually thought an apology was unnecessary, but he didn't.
>>
>> There is more than enough policing in the world today. Let's be big=20
>> enough to forgive and forget.
>>
>> I remember after the 9/11 bombing in NYC that a bunch of people quit=20
>> the list because someone took a stance that was more neutral,=20
>> coinciding with the way of world peace as "opposed" to the=20
>> belligerent stance of the American "president". To me, this meant=20
>> that some people on the list were so immature that they couldn't even=20
>> respect the opinions of others.
>>
>> I would hope Gene be let back, and we maintain a respectable forum=20
>> based on knowledge, and integrity.
>>
>>
>> Marcus Grandon
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 09:45 AM, IieoOoeiI@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>> Konbanwa, to the shakuhachi list:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Someone posted something on the list about me recently, and I=20
>>> responded with my own post.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And, instinctively, from my years as a fighting United States Marine=20
>>> and a criminal courtroom brawler and other unthinkable biographical=20
>>> environments - I now realize to my shame I over responded.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Significantly.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hit back with just about as much sarcasm and sting as I could.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And then someone else piped up, and then another and another, and I=20
>>> whipped back with a large portion indeed of my senile old crotchety=20
>>> 73-year-old fury. These years of steroids - the only things which=20
>>> keep me alive today - give me a whole lot more zeal than brains.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whence I appropriately was stripped of my rank, my saber broken, and=20
>>> I was drummed off the list.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And that's well, as they say.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Except it leaves something of a haunting pall over all of us and our=20
>>> beloved shakuhachi. What sort of dumb dharma is this? And who ever=20
>>> wants any curtain wring down on a sour note.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So I wish to apologize to all the list, most sincerely indeed.=20
>>> Hontou-ni moushiwake-gozaimasen. Gomen-nasai.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I would like to be back on the list, with a significantly more=20
>>> bridled tongue, I assure you, but that option is certainly not a=20
>>> condition of this apology.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank you for listening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Gene Neill
>>> PO Box 78
>>> Mayo, Florida 32066
>>> USA
>>> Phone 386-294-1236
>>> FAX 386-294-1112
>>> www.shakuhachi.ws
>>>
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