Yes, there is a problem, sorry. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I use Hotm=
ail=20
and anything over tens of KBs just adds up. You'd think people would be a=
ble=20
to send links, or at least offer to send attachments to those who request=
=20
them. My understanding was that the moderator's policy was to have no=20
attachments. Evidently this is not true, or not enforced, which means the=
=20
same thing. I'm sorry but it seems like basic netiquette to not send larg=
e=20
files to a large and anonymous public, like a news list. It's like crammi=
ng=20
all your neighbors' mailboxes with a phone book, preventing other mail fr=
om=20
coming through. I know it's no big deal, but I will unsubscribe from the=20
list next time this happens, as I have other, often work-related, emails=20
coming to this box. I won't make any more fuss about it, one way or anoth=
er.=20
My two cents, and probably my last, so thanks for those years I've been o=
n=20
the list, and to the friends and acquaintances I've had the good fortune =
to=20
encounter. Adios.
>From: "T. M. Hoffman=E3=80=80" <ijmusath@po.wind.ne.jp>
>Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
>To: <Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Shaku] Survey Report
>Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 03:28:11 +0900
>
>Hi Jay, we talked while you were a grad student in Japan some years ago,
>looking forward to seeing your survey in full in Asian Music. For now,=20
>just
>a note on something you touched upon -
>
>"The original purpose of this survey was to gauge the activities of
>non-Japanese
>shakuhachi players outside of Japan, but I also duplicated the survey in
>Japanese and distributed it to Japanese players as well. However, I was=20
>only
>able to gather 11 Japanese respondents as I was unable to locate a simil=
ar
>Internet discussion group among Japanese players. <<<This lack of Intern=
et
>discussion about the shakuhachi among Japanese players may itself be
>significant.>>>"
>
>This could be abbreviated and revised to read: <<<(lack of) discussion
>(among Japanese) is most significant>>> single factor -- though it may f=
all
>on the 'mu' side of the 'yuu - mu' (Japanese: existent/substantial -
>non-existent/'substance-less') significance equation -- in the history a=
nd
>present forms and states of musical styles/traditions and every other
>manifestation of social relations, right on down to the cost of living...
>I've been lecturing (in Japanese) in ethnomusicology to 400 students/wee=
k
>for eleven years, have published (in Japanese) a number of theses on mus=
ic,
>etc etc, and must literally cry for response/query/criticism. It is
>difficult to get one to speak (frankly) of either their own music or tha=
t=20
>of
>another (for quite opposite yet identical reasons!), and the scarcity of
>abstract theoretical constructs make it very difficult to discuss 'music=
'
>(sans qualifying adjective). Quite a contrast to India(n music) and=20
>speech.
>Lived/studied there six years, have lectured/'workshopped' (in Hindi or
>English) in Indian universities etc, and usually have to request (in cas=
es
>where it needs to be structured so) that responses be held until later.
>Musicology has developed there on the pattern of Sanskrit linguistics,
>through dialogue and dialectics, which also produce and critique coheren=
t
>improvisation in either music or speech. Please note that I am speaking
>quantitatively, and that one can point to certain advantages of restrain=
t=20
>in
>any context. However, I can compare the 'amount of objectively verifiabl=
e
>understanding acquired experientially' (regarding the structure of music=
=20
>and
>technique etc that is applied in its expression) achieved in one hour of
>one-to-one study, e.g., in Lucknow and in Tokyo. It has also been
>interesting to participate in and observe various types and amounts of
>discussion in one-to-many, many-to-one, and many-to-many situations. I =
had
>the opportunity to work some of these things out in a panel "Expressive=20
>Arts
>and Culture" on 04 August ('fresh?!' off the 'plane back from the NY
>ShakFest) in the East-West Center Int'l Conference 2004 in Tokyo (my pap=
er
>'Music is sound, sound is time, time is money') - dialectics most enjoya=
ble
>(and most frantic - watch that clock!) with participants from many parts=
of
>Asia and America. Earlier in the day, four musicians (including myself) =
had
>a fine time in the performance 'Integral Asia' - playing Japanese and
>Hindustani classical music and singing classical Japanese poetry in Indi=
an
>vocal forms, featuring shakuhachi, koto, voice, tabla, tambura. Discuss=
ion
>followed, and has spawned more...
>
>Now, multiply the number of people who may have ploughed through the
>preceding run-on paragraph times the time it has taken to get to this=20
>point,
>and then try not to think about how much of our lives is given over to
>discussion; and then, once again, all 'Indo-European Mothras, back to th=
y
>bonfires!'
>
>Cheers!
>Tim Hoffman
>(this being my first plunge into the shakucomm pool, please allow me to
>introduce myself and our IJMEA, am also attaching info file on CD featur=
ing
>shakuhachi in Asian crossover music, and including selections from a
>historic collaboration between two of Asia's most accomplished musicians=
-
>not fusion, and not Takemitsu-style
>encounter; I hope there is no problem with including an attachment in th=
e
>discussion group communication)
>
>T. M. Hoffman performing artist, professor
>Director, Indo-Japanese Music Exchange Association (Japan office)
>130 Yoshizaki, Shimonita-machi, Kanra-gun, Gunma-ken 370-2604 JAPAN
>tel/fax: 81-(0)274-82-3160 e-mail: ijmusath@po.wind.ne.jp
>http://shakuhachi.com/G-IJMEA.html
>http://www.indiaedunews.net/MeetAchievers/interviews/holfman.htm
>(interview by National Network of Education, India)
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jay Keister" <Jay.Keister@colorado.edu>
>To: <Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu>
>Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 6:26 AM
>Subject: [Shaku] Survey Report
>
>
>Greetings Shakuhachi list members,
>
>I want to share with everyone the results from the shakuhachi survey tha=
t I
>conducted on this list last year. I wish to thank again all who=20
>participated
>and I apologize for the long delay in reporting results. Even with such =
a
>small
>number of respondents it was time consuming to comb through all the
>information
>I gathered.
>
>I would also like to let everyone know that you can read about this surv=
ey
>and
>more in an article I wrote called "The Shakuhachi as Spiritual Tool: A
>Japanese
>Buddhist Instrument in the West." This article can be found in the lates=
t
>issue
>of Asian Music (Volume 35, no. 2, Spring/Summer 2004) which you can=20
>probably
>find in your local university library, either hard copy or electronicall=
y.
>
>As indicated by the article's title, I am particularly interested in the
>Buddhist associations with the shakuhachi and its curious history as bot=
h a
>musical instrument and a tool for the practice of Zen, especially as the
>instrument travels outside of Japan. In the survey, however, I gathered
>other
>kinds of information from shakuhachi players that I found quite interest=
ing
>and
>would like to share with you here.
>
>Please keep in mind that this small survey (only 58 respondents) is not =
the
>most representative example of all shakuhachi players. Most of the surve=
ys
>were
>collected from this email discussion list which, as you all know, narrow=
s
>the
>field considerably. I would have liked to personally contact a number of
>shakuhachi teachers and ask them to distribute the survey to their=20
>students,
>but such an undertaking would have been too big and too time-consuming f=
or
>me.
>My interests here were simply to test the waters in the shakuhachi=20
>community
>and I found the Internet an easy, cost-effective way to gather informati=
on
>quickly.
>
>The original purpose of this survey was to gauge the activities of
>non-Japanese
>shakuhachi players outside of Japan, but I also duplicated the survey in
>Japanese and distributed it to Japanese players as well. However, I was=20
>only
>able to gather 11 Japanese respondents as I was unable to locate a simil=
ar
>Internet discussion group among Japanese players. This lack of Internet
>discussion about the shakuhachi among Japanese players may itself be
>significant.
>
>Here are some of the specifics on the 58 respondents:
>
>Countries in which the 58 respondents live: (47 Westerners; 11 Japanese)
>30 U.S.; 14 Japan (11 Japanese; 3 foreigners); 5 Canada; 5 Australia; 2
>United
>Kingdom; 1 Netherlands; 1 Philippines.
>
>Average age of respondents: 47 years old
>
>Gender: 54 males, 4 females (all non-Japanese)
>
>Do shakuhachi players play other instruments?
>Yes. Almost all respondents have had experience with other instruments, =
but
>28
>out of 58 currently play the shakuhachi exclusively. 6 respondents have=
=20
>had
>no
>other musical experience than shakuhachi.
>
>How much money did respondents spend on flutes?
>Shakuhachi players certainly spend a lot of money on flutes! 49 of the 5=
8
>respondents listed the total sum of money they have spent on flutes and =
the
>total figure is approximately $212,920, which comes to about $4,345 per
>person.
>Keep in mind that the Japanese respondents are bigger spenders; 11 Japan=
ese
>respondents spent more money on flutes than all 38 Westerners. The most =
any
>individual spent on flutes was approximately $40,000 by one Japanese
>respondent.
>
>What about lessons with teachers?
>30 respondents (over 50%) do not have regular lessons with teachers;
>7 respondents have no teacher at all, some attributing this to the gener=
al
>inaccessibility of teachers while others claim that having a teacher is
>unnecessary to play shakuhachi.
>13 respondents teach shakuhachi to others.
>
>How significant an impact has the instrument had on respondents' lives?
>31 respondents claimed shakuhachi had a Very Significant impact on their
>lives.
>About 6 respondents indicated that they made major changes in their=20
>personal
>or
>family life as a result of the shakuhachi.
>
>What was it that originally attracted players to the shakuhachi?
>31 respondents claim that it was the sound (specifically the timbre) tha=
t
>drew
>them to the instrument;
>14 respondents attribute their introduction to the instrument with eithe=
r
>Zen
>or meditation (none of these respondents were Japanese).
>
>How many respondents practice meditation?
>40 out of 47 Westerners regularly practice some kind of meditation. One
>should
>bear in mind that Westerners often use the word "meditate" rather loosel=
y
>(e.g., "watering my garden is my meditation," etc.).
>1 out of 11 Japanese respondents practice meditation.
>
>How many connect their meditation practice with their shakuhachi playing=
?
>29 of the 47 Western respondents (62%) claim that they use the shakuhach=
i=20
>as
>an
>instrument of meditation in their own personal practice to varying degre=
es.
>1 respondent in the Japanese survey uses the shakuhachi for his meditati=
on
>practice.
>
>Is the shakuhachi considered gakki, hokki or both?
>40 out of 47 Western respondents consider the shakuhachi to be both a
>meditation tool and a musical instrument. As most respondents are aware =
of
>the
>history of the instrument, this statement might also be read more as jus=
t a
>statement of historical fact than personal belief. However, in the Japan=
ese
>survey, 10 of the 11 respondents considered the shakuhachi to be only a
>musical
>instrument, not a meditation tool.
>
>How many Shakuhachi players identify themselves as Buddhists?
>19 respondents (15 Westerners; 4 Japanese) declared they are Buddhist (3=
3%
>of
>all respondents).
>28 respondents did not acknowledge any religious affiliation (some of th=
ese
>claimed that Zen was not a religion, but a philosophy).
>
>----
>
>If anyone has any particular questions about the survey results, please
>e-mail
>me directly at keister@colorado.edu. I welcome anyone's feedback on this
>project.
>
>--
>Jay Keister
>Assistant Professor, Ethnomusicology
>University of Colorado, Boulder
>303-492-5496
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