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Is having no goal a goal?
On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Arnold, Kenneth wrote:
> Well,
> I am walking is not a goal. I am practicing zazen is not a goal. I am
> playing the shakuhachi is not a goal.
> On the other hand,
> I am walking to work, I am practicing zazen to become enlightened, I =
am
> playing the shakuhachi to get rich-all are goals.
> So the question is not whether one plays "accidentally." One only=20
> plays.
>
> Shakuhachi practice might be a goal or it might not.
>
> Yours,
> Ken Arnold
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Baker [mailto:jinpa19822003@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:36 PM
> To: stan; Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> Subject: Re: [Shaku] Help in Understanding shakuhachi
>
>
> --- stan <b@didgethings.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi John
>>
>> Isn't one of the fundamentals of Zen practice not to
>> have a goal?
>>
>>
>
> Hi.
>
> Not to get argumentative but just to make a point, let
> me ask whether anyone anywhere has ever played the
> shakuhachi accidentally? Or just accidentally sat
> down to meditate? I was walking along and one day I
> could play the shakuhachi. I was walking along and
> one day I just sat and practiced Zen.
>
> It may happen, but I do not know of it. Playing flute
> and meditating are intentional activities and
> intention implies a goal.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Baker
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Is having no goal a goal?
On Jan 5, 2005, at 3:41 PM, Arnold, Kenneth wrote:
<excerpt>Well,
I am walking is not a goal. I am practicing zazen is not a goal. I am
playing the shakuhachi is not a goal.
On the other hand,
I am walking to work, I am practicing zazen to become enlightened, I am
playing the shakuhachi to get rich-all are goals.
So the question is not whether one plays "accidentally." One only
plays.
Shakuhachi practice might be a goal or it might not.
Yours,
Ken Arnold
-----Original Message-----
From: John Baker [mailto:jinpa19822003@yahoo.com]=20
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:36 PM
To: stan; Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [Shaku] Help in Understanding shakuhachi
--- stan <<b@didgethings.co.uk> wrote:
<excerpt>Hi John
Isn't one of the fundamentals of Zen practice not to
have a goal?
</excerpt>
Hi.=20
Not to get argumentative but just to make a point, let
me ask whether anyone anywhere has ever played the
shakuhachi accidentally? Or just accidentally sat
down to meditate? I was walking along and one day I
could play the shakuhachi. I was walking along and
one day I just sat and practiced Zen.
It may happen, but I do not know of it. Playing flute
and meditating are intentional activities and
intention implies a goal.
Regards,
John Baker
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