RE: [Shaku] Help in Understanding shakuhachi

From: Dan Gutwein (dangutwein@comcast.net)
Date: Wed Jan 05 2005 - 15:03:39 PST


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Thank you Stan! So liberating - just blow - big mind.
 
-----Original Message-----
From: stan [mailto:b@didgethings.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 12:20 PM
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
Subject: Re: [Shaku] Help in Understanding shakuhachi
 
Hi John
 
Isn't one of the fundamentals of Zen practice not to have a goal?
If one acheives an enlightened state, then one can decide what to do
with it according to the situation one finds oneself in. To have a goal
or intention of saving others before one has acheived enlighenment is
putting the cart before the horse.
 
Just blow, and see where it takes you.
 
Stan
----- Original Message -----
From: John <mailto:jinpa19822003@yahoo.com> Baker
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Shaku] Help in Understanding shakuhachi
 

--- Alex Long <duriank24@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

>
>
> What is the significance of generating Bodhichitta?
>

Hi.

Shakuhachi is associated with Zen Buddhism which is a
branch of Mahayana Buddhism. Mahayana is
distinguished from some other major branches by its
attempt to save all sentient beings. A Mahayana
practitioner does not seek his/her individual
salvation (enlightenment). S/he vows to postpone her
enlightenment until all sentient beings have attained
Buddhahood. This is expressed through the Bodhichitta
vow which is worded differently from one group to the
next. Bodhi means enlightenment and Chitta means
mind. So the Mind of Enlightenment (Bodhichitta)
means the intention to benefit all sentient beings by
your practice.

This sets a very high standard for blowing bamboo. I
am not very successful. But it is a goal.

This is a complicated matter and I have tried to give
a brief explanation.

Regards,

John Baker

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span = style=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thank you Stan!<span style=3D'mso-spacerun:yes'>&nbsp; </span>So liberating &#8211; just blow = &#8211; big mind.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 = face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original = Message-----<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> stan [mailto:b@didgethings.co.uk] <br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, January = 05, 2005 12:20 PM<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu<br> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Shaku] Help = in Understanding shakuhachi</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom: 12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br> --- Alex Long &lt;<a = href=3D"mailto:duriank24@yahoo.com.sg">duriank24@yahoo.com.sg</a>&gt; wrote:<br> <br> &gt; <br> &gt; <br> &gt; What is the significance of generating Bodhichitta?<br> &gt; <br> <br> Hi.<br> <br> Shakuhachi is associated with Zen Buddhism which is a<br> branch of Mahayana Buddhism.&nbsp; Mahayana is<br> distinguished from some other major branches by its<br> attempt to save all sentient beings.&nbsp; A Mahayana<br> practitioner does not seek his/her individual<br> salvation (enlightenment).&nbsp; S/he vows to postpone her<br> enlightenment until all sentient beings have attained<br> Buddhahood.&nbsp; This is expressed through the Bodhichitta<br> vow which is worded differently from one group to the<br> next.&nbsp; Bodhi means enlightenment and Chitta means<br> mind.&nbsp; So the Mind of Enlightenment (Bodhichitta)<br> means the intention to benefit all sentient beings by<br> your practice.<br> <br> This sets a very high standard for blowing bamboo.&nbsp; I <br> am not very successful.&nbsp; But it is a goal.<br> <br> This is a complicated matter and I have tried to give<br> a brief explanation.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> John Baker<br> <br> _____________________________________________<br> <br> List subscription information is at:<br> &nbsp;<a = href=3D"http://communication.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html">http://communic= ation.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html</a><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> -- <br> No virus found in this incoming message.<br> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.<br> Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release Date: = 03/01/2005<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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