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Hi Justin
"Are we practising for ourselves? Really, "I" cannot be
enlightened anyway, right? You see?"
If "I" cannot be enlightened then how can a vow or desire that "I" make =
help us to enlightenment?
My point about putting the cart before the horse, is simply to point to =
the fact that an unenlightened person cannot possibly understand what =
they will do once enlightenment is acheived, or what enlightenment will =
require of that person. For "I" to desire something when i achieve that =
enlightenment is nothing but an obstacle to enlightenment, therefore the =
desire to save all sentient beings actually prevents full enlightenment =
and therefore prevents the escape from the cycle thus fulfilling the =
desire.
The other point one should consider is that maybe there are a lot of =
sentient beings who do not wish for this form of salvation. In an =
infinite universe we should accept that there are many ways of =
existence, and just because one believes Nirvana to be the ultimate form =
of salvation does not mean that others should.
When it comes to meditation one should consider whether one actually =
needs any goal or desire. Beginning by letting go of our goals and =
desires when it comes to meditation, will enevitably spread into other =
aspects of our lives as we deepen our practice.
Well, that's just my thoughts on it. At the end of the day when you =
meditate you can only meditate with your own mind, and each of us has to =
sit in a different place.
I won't be receiving any emails for a few days as i have to fix my =
computer now (or buy a new one). Look forward to more comments on this =
aspect of shakuhachi.
Alex... Perry Yung usually sells nice entry level jinashi flutes on eBay =
http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZyungflutesQQsorecordsperpa=
geZ50QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1 I got mine from him and really =
love it. Think he's off bamboo hunting at the moment though.
TooTs
Stan
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Hi =
Justin</FONT></EM></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4><EM>"</EM><FONT face=3D"Times =
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size=3D3>Are we practising for ourselves? Really, "I" cannot =
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anyway, right? You see?"</FONT><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4><EM>If "I" cannot be =
enlightened=20
then how can a vow or desire that "I" make help us to=20
enlightenment?</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4><EM>My point about putting =
the cart=20
before the horse, is simply to point to the fact that an unenlightened =
person=20
cannot possibly understand what they will do once enlightenment is =
acheived, or=20
what enlightenment will require of that person. For "I" to desire=20
something when i achieve that enlightenment is nothing but an obstacle =
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enlightenment, therefore the desire to save all sentient beings actually =
prevents full enlightenment and therefore prevents the escape from =
the=20
cycle thus fulfilling the desire.</EM></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>The other point one =
should consider=20
is that maybe there are a lot of sentient beings who do not wish for =
this form=20
of salvation. In an infinite universe we should accept that there =
are many=20
ways of existence, and just because one believes Nirvana to be the =
ultimate form=20
of salvation does not mean that others should.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>When it comes to =
meditation one=20
should consider whether one actually needs any goal or =
desire. =20
Beginning by letting go of our goals and desires when it comes to =
meditation,=20
will enevitably spread into other aspects of our lives as we deepen our=20
practice.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Well, that's just my =
thoughts on=20
it. At the end of the day when you meditate you can only=20
meditate with your own mind, and each of us has to sit in a =
different=20
place.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>I won't be receiving =
any=20
emails for a few days as i have to fix my computer now (or buy a =
new=20
one). Look forward to more comments on this aspect of=20
shakuhachi.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Alex... Perry Yung =
usually sells nice=20
entry level jinashi flutes on eBay <A=20
href=3D"http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZyungflutesQQsoreco=
rdsperpageZ50QQsosortorderZ1QQsosortpropertyZ1">http://search.ebay.co.uk/=
_W0QQgotopageZ1QQsassZyungflutesQQsorecordsperpageZ50QQsosortorderZ1QQsos=
ortpropertyZ1</A> =20
I got mine from him and really love it. Think he's off bamboo =
hunting at=20
the moment though.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>TooTs</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" =
size=3D4>Stan</FONT></EM></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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