I thought this would be interesting to say. =20
Two people get on a roller coaster. One gets off and
pukes, the other feels great. =20
Anyways, I wanted to say in this email that I think
lots of people on this list are very intelligent -
more so than I :) And if anyone is ever near Cornell,
Ithaca - let me know cause I would love to have tea
time and play flutes at my house. I'm 2 poor for
flute lessons cause I also play djembe drums, taiku
drums, have a car that needs fixing all the time:(=20
karate lessons, and I only buy organic foods -
expensive!!! Plus I really enjoy playing by myself
and my friends have to force me to play for them. But
once again if anyones in ithaca come teach me proper
lesson stuff and I will give you as much tea - food as
you want plus a good atmoshpere to play at..... my
house has a creek running through the front yard and
forest all around - very private. =20
jason =20
--- John Baker <jinpa19822003@yahoo.com> wrote:
>=20
> --- Brian Ritchie <brianritchie@mac.com> wrote:
>=20
> > Hi Jason,
> >=20
> > Music is a language of sorts
>=20
> What does it signify and what are its signifiers?=20
> Language is characterized by ambiguity, so where
> does
> this get us?
>=20
>=20
> > (the most habitual improvisors in Western
> classical
> > music) have a=20
> > classical vocabulary
>=20
> This is true in a linear, rational universe. There
> is
> also a whole range of improvisation based on modal,
> static harmonies. Musical education focuses on
> things
> it can analyze: chord patterns, themes, variations.=20
> There's a whole universe of music outside this
> sphere.
> Memory is only one aspect of listening.
>=20
> > learning the traditional music
> > forces you to develop=20
> > techniques and pitch relationships that nobody
> > (Japanese or Western)=20
> > would develop "naturally".
>=20
> And the evidence backing this statement is? Do you
> mean to say that Japanese traditional music is
> unnatural and that is a reason to learn it?=20
> Culture,
> in this way, becomes a kind of perverse pursuit.
>=20
> > The natural scale
> > of the shakuhachi is=20
> > the minor pentatonic but it's not the most common
> > one used in=20
> > traditional music.
>=20
> But it is the blues scale minus one passing tone.=20
> You
> can play Amazing Grace with just the natural scale
> of
> the shakuhachi, for instance. So it is A common
> traditional scale.
>=20
> > with no musical vocabulary to
> > back it up people tend=20
> > to stick to whatever is easy to produce given the
> > mechanics of the=20
> > instrument they are playing.=20
>=20
> By this argument, you would recommend writers to
> practice typing other people's writing in order to
> develop their own style. My point is that human
> ingenuity is the source of inovation, and imitation
> is
> the source of copies.
>=20
> This whole discussion reminds me of the bogus
> evaluation of someone else's enlightenment on this
> list. How can I evaluate someone's improvisation if
> I
> have never heard them. And in any case, my
> assessment
> of someone else suffers from my limitations. I
> cannot
> necessarily hear what you are saying if my opinions
> clog the channel.
>=20
> Improvisors, play on.
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> John Baker
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