--- JASON CASTNER <jchanwagenki@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on this
> subject. I can only play without the sense of an
> audience when I close my eyes. oh, and beer
> helps...... but not to much. haha - But I'm only
> playing around a few people at a time and they are
> people that I am friends with. Also I know that by
> myself I feel and sound better than with others
> watching me. So thats why I try to work on playing
> with others around.
>
> Ive already forgotten the previous heated topic and
> am
> leaving that to the past because I said what I had
> to
> say and can't keep pushing the same buttons or risk
> being a burden to some folks. However I think my
> point was made and maybe I look dumb for saying
> it...I'm just trying to change the world for the
> better like the young in every generation before me.
>
> I guess the world will keep getting faster and
> faster
> untill no one can survive anymore or perhaps a
> climax
> has to be reached and something drastic happens to
> change it for good....... Sorry for only being 26
> years old and hopefull. Maybe things are cool were
> some of you people live but remember millions are
> suffering all around.....
>
> mentally challenged,
> Jason
>
>
> --- Bruce Jones <bjones@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:
> > >From: John Baker <jinpa19822003@yahoo.com>
> > >
> > >Honkyoku seems to me to be Zen as public display.
>
> >
> > I saved this snippet because I wanted to pursue
> this
> > a bit once the
> > furor died down.
> >
> > I agree, honkyoku is zen as public display. My
> > question is, what
> > else could it be? Certainly pieces like Hi Fu Mi
> > Hachigaeshi were
> > meant to be played in public, and pieces like
> Kumoi
> > Jishi were meant
> > to be played at least in the public of the temple.
>
> > Even if monks
> > played Mukaiji or Kyorei in the privacy of their
> > cells, they had to
> > be playing with the knowledge that the sounds
> could
> > be heard by
> > others.
> >
> > I don't know how widespread the practice is, but I
> > know that Riley
> > asks people not to applaud following honkyoku
> pieces
> > in his
> > concerts. I think this is appropriate and
> > appreciate his request,
> > particularly because it offers him a chance to
> talk
> > about religious
> > music and the shakuhachi.
> >
> > Are there traditions of "religious" music (quotes
> > because the extent
> > to which zen is a religion is an open question)
> that
> > deliberately
> > don't involve any opportunity for an audience?
> > (Aside of course,
> > from music accompanyment on hermitage).
> >
> > Even given the meditation aspects of suizen, can
> one
> > play without a
> > sense of "audience"? That is, without taking into
> > consideration all
> > of the surrounding environment?
> >
> > bj
> >
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