Re: [Shaku] The Power of Urushi

Does anyone out there know if such anti-poison ivy
products are available in Europe? Or in Japan also?
Thanks
Justin

--- Stav Tapuch <tapuch@hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Hey All,
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> I am very highly allergic to urushi as well - and
> interestingly enough my=20
> reaction is limited to my hands which swell up and
> even crack.
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> Like Perry I have found that some preventive
> measures when handling new=20
> flutes can help a lot. In my case I found that
> washing a new flute down in=20
> technu anti-posion ivy oil remover nuetralizes the
> problem.
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> But I am really weirded out (and a tad worried) by
> the possibility that I=20
> will one day develop the longterm allergy of being
> no longer able to=20
> tolerate my old flutes. That must be very hard...
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> Stav AKA Seth
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> >From: Perry Yung <yungflutes@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> >To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> >Subject: Re: [Shaku] The Power of Urushi
> >Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:13:08 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Hi Karl,
> >
> > >Can anyone estimate curing time (end of
> allergenic properties) under=20
> >humid
> >conditions (sealed plastic bag, moisturizing wicks
> in both halves)? My
> >repair person in Japan cured my flute for at least
> three months in a=20
> >special
> >high-humidity box after repair this spring. I
> received the flute back a
> >couple of weeks ago and it is still highly
> allergenic to me. Just a
> >ballpark figure -- I realize there's a lot of
> variables here.
> >
> >A thin wash of urushi can polymerizes in 20 minutes
> in a warm humid=20
> >airtight box, a thicker coat by overnight. I can
> play a flute the next day=20
> >with no problems. But, I do smell the urushiol
> vapors still present. This=20
> >is what must be causing the allergic reactions.
> >
> >Because several people have had this reaction to my
> flutes (three in the=20
> >last seven years), I've started to use Cortaid
> Anti-Poison Ivy wipe cloths=20
> >to wipe down the entire flute before it is sent
> out. I don't smell the=20
> >vapors after I use the wipes. You can get these at
> CVS drugstores.
> >
> >Since I've started using the wipes, no one has
> alerted me to a reaction. It=20
> >could be that those who received the new flutes are
> part of the population=20
> >that are unaffected by urushiol.
> >
> >When I was learning how to use urushi in Japan from
> Kinya, he made me very=20
> >aware of the dangers. He had me bring a change of
> cloths for the shop=20
> >because the urushiol gas can stay on the cloths and
> affect those who may=20
> >come in contact with it.
> >
> >I sometimes get the rash during the application
> process, when the gas of=20
> >fresh urushi is floating in the air. My educated
> guess tells me that it's=20
> >the brand I'm using as opposed to color (red, black
> etc...). Some makers=20
> >use commercially obtained urushi while a hand full
> make their own. These=20
> >days, If I cover up any exposed skin during the
> application, I'm usually=20
> >safe from having a reaction.
> >
> >Let me know if the Cortaid wipes work.
> >
> >Best, Perry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"He is fast becoming one of the few Americans who
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Received on Sun Jul 15 07:43 PDT 2007