Re: [Shaku] Circled numbers on Kinko scores??

Hi Bruce
Nowadays people don't pay any attention to the numbers. In the old days the way to use the numbers was like this - start at the beginning, and play through until you come to number 1, then skip from there to number 2. Continue playing from there until you reach number 3, at which point you skip to number 4, and so on.

Jin Nyodo was Miura Kindo's student so I guess he was following him. Kindo and Rodo were students of Araki Chikuo, on whose scores they based their own, and which contain these numbers though their origin is older.

Justin Senryu
http://senryushakuhachi.com/

--- On Tue, 9/1/09, Bruce Jones <bjones@weber.ucsd.edu> wrote:

> From: Bruce Jones <bjones@weber.ucsd.edu>
> Subject: [Shaku] Circled numbers on Kinko scores??
> To: shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 5:51 AM
>
>
> Bill Schultz drives down to San Diego about once a month or
> so to give
> lessons to four of those of us who live here.  This
> month one of the
> students couldn't make the lesson, so Bill gave a talk on
> Jin Nyodo's
> notation style and how it related to the different kinds of
> pieces Jin
> was scoring.
>
> One of the pieces Bill picked was Sanya Sugagaki. 
> While talking about the
> score, I noticed that it has the numbers 1 thru 4 (in
> kanji) in circles in
> the score.  They're not in order: #2 appears in the
> first line, #3 appears
> in the third-to-last line, and #1 & #4 appear in the
> second-to-last line.
> (cf. http://shikan.org/JN_Sanya-Sugagaki.html)
>
> I remembered that a similar numbering appears on Jin's
> score for Akita
> Sugagaki, and that when I asked Masa Yoshizawa what they
> meant, he didn't
> really know.  So I asked Bill.  He didn't really
> know either, except to
> say that the same numbers appear on the Sanya Sugagaki
> score in the
> Goro Yamaguchi (aka Muira Kindo) set.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone on the list knows what the
> significance of the
> numbers is.  This is not isolated to just these two
> pieces, nor to just
> these two sets of scores.
>
> I went to check out the Kinko Shuppansha "Official" Kinko
> Ryu (according
> to Masa) scores for Sanya Sugagaki to see if they also had
> the little
> circled numbers in the score.  They do.  Then I
> checked a Mizuno Rodo
> Kinko score set, and the numbers appear there as well.
>
> They appear in a lot of pieces.  Cursory examination
> of the Rodo book
> shows them in Sanya Sugagaki, Akita Sugagaki, Koro
> Sugagaki, Saima
> Sugagaki, Shizu no Kyoku, Kyo Reibo.  The same is true
> for some of those
> scores in the Shuppansha set.  And those are not the
> only pieces with
> the numbers, that's just where I stopped cataloging.
>
> The numbering isn't necessarily run true through the
> scores.  While the
> Kinko Shuppansha Saima Sugagaki score shows the numbers,
> the Rodo score
> doesn't.  The numbering also doesn't necessarily run
> through all the
> variations of Kinko scores.  Notomi Judo didn't
> include them (but then,
> his scores are even more sparse than the Kindo/Goro set).
>
> So, does anyone know what the significance of the numbers
> is?
>
>
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