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Perry do u know of any teacher in Singapore?
Alex
Perry Yung <yungflutes@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- JASON CASTNER wrote:
> I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on this
> subject. I can only play without the sense of an
> audience when I close my eyes. oh, and beer
> helps...... but not to much. haha - But I'm only
> playing around a few people at a time and they are
> people that I am friends with. Also I know that by
> myself I feel and sound better than with others
> watching me. So thats why I try to work on playing
> with others around.
>
> Ive already forgotten the previous heated topic and
> am
> leaving that to the past because I said what I had
> to
> say and can't keep pushing the same buttons or risk
> being a burden to some folks. However I think my
> point was made and maybe I look dumb for saying
> it...I'm just trying to change the world for the
> better like the young in every generation before me.
>
> I guess the world will keep getting faster and
> faster
> untill no one can survive anymore or perhaps a
> climax
> has to be reached and something drastic happens to
> change it for good....... Sorry for only being 26
> years old and hopefull. Maybe things are cool were
> some of you people live but remember millions are
> suffering all around.....
>
> mentally challenged,
> Jason
>
>
> --- Bruce Jones wrote:
> > >From: John Baker
> > >
> > >Honkyoku seems to me to be Zen as public display.
>
> >
> > I saved this snippet because I wanted to pursue
> this
> > a bit once the
> > furor died down.
> >
> > I agree, honkyoku is zen as public display. My
> > question is, what
> > else could it be? Certainly pieces like Hi Fu Mi
> > Hachigaeshi were
> > meant to be played in public, and pieces like
> Kumoi
> > Jishi were meant
> > to be played at least in the public of the temple.
>
> > Even if monks
> > played Mukaiji or Kyorei in the privacy of their
> > cells, they had to
> > be playing with the knowledge that the sounds
> could
> > be heard by
> > others.
> >
> > I don't know how widespread the practice is, but I
> > know that Riley
> > asks people not to applaud following honkyoku
> pieces
> > in his
> > concerts. I think this is appropriate and
> > appreciate his request,
> > particularly because it offers him a chance to
> talk
> > about religious
> > music and the shakuhachi.
> >
> > Are there traditions of "religious" music (quotes
> > because the extent
> > to which zen is a religion is an open question)
> that
> > deliberately
> > don't involve any opportunity for an audience?
> > (Aside of course,
> > from music accompanyment on hermitage).
> >
> > Even given the meditation aspects of suizen, can
> one
> > play without a
> > sense of "audience"? That is, without taking into
> > consideration all
> > of the surrounding environment?
> >
> > bj
> >
> > -
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<DIV>Alex<BR><BR><B><I>Perry Yung <yungflutes@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">--- JASON CASTNER <JCHANWAGENKI@YAHOO.COM>wrote:<BR><BR>> I'm interested in hearing others thoughts on this<BR>> subject. I can only play without the sense of an<BR>> audience when I close my eyes. oh, and beer<BR>> helps...... but not to much. haha - But I'm only<BR>> playing around a few people at a time and they are<BR>> people that I am friends with. Also I know that by<BR>> myself I feel and sound better than with others<BR>> watching me. So thats why I try to work on playing<BR>> with others around. <BR>> <BR>> Ive already forgotten the previous heated topic and<BR>> am<BR>> leaving that to the past because I said what I had<BR>> to<BR>> say and can't keep pushing the same buttons or risk<BR>> being a burden to some folks. However I think my<BR>> point was made and maybe I look dumb for saying<BR>> it...I'm just tryi!
ng to
change the world for the<BR>> better like the young in every generation before me.<BR>> <BR>> I guess the world will keep getting faster and<BR>> faster<BR>> untill no one can survive anymore or perhaps a<BR>> climax<BR>> has to be reached and something drastic happens to<BR>> change it for good....... Sorry for only being 26<BR>> years old and hopefull. Maybe things are cool were<BR>> some of you people live but remember millions are<BR>> suffering all around.....<BR>> <BR>> mentally challenged,<BR>> Jason <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> --- Bruce Jones <BJONES@WEBER.UCSD.EDU>wrote:<BR>> > >From: John Baker <JINPA19822003@YAHOO.COM><BR>> > ><BR>> > >Honkyoku seems to me to be Zen as public display.<BR>> <BR>> > <BR>> > I saved this snippet because I wanted to pursue<BR>> this<BR>> > a bit once the<BR>> > furor died down.<BR>> > <BR>> > I agree, honkyoku is zen as public
display. My<BR>> > question is, what<BR>> > else could it be? Certainly pieces like Hi Fu Mi<BR>> > Hachigaeshi were<BR>> > meant to be played in public, and pieces like<BR>> Kumoi<BR>> > Jishi were meant<BR>> > to be played at least in the public of the temple.<BR>> <BR>> > Even if monks<BR>> > played Mukaiji or Kyorei in the privacy of their<BR>> > cells, they had to<BR>> > be playing with the knowledge that the sounds<BR>> could<BR>> > be heard by<BR>> > others.<BR>> > <BR>> > I don't know how widespread the practice is, but I<BR>> > know that Riley<BR>> > asks people not to applaud following honkyoku<BR>> pieces<BR>> > in his<BR>> > concerts. I think this is appropriate and<BR>> > appreciate his request,<BR>> > particularly because it offers him a chance to<BR>> talk<BR>> > about religious<BR>> > music and the shakuhachi.<BR>!
> >
<BR>> > Are there traditions of "religious" music (quotes<BR>> > because the extent<BR>> > to which zen is a religion is an open question)<BR>> that<BR>> > deliberately<BR>> > don't involve any opportunity for an audience? <BR>> > (Aside of course,<BR>> > from music accompanyment on hermitage). <BR>> > <BR>> > Even given the meditation aspects of suizen, can<BR>> one<BR>> > play without a<BR>> > sense of "audience"? That is, without taking into<BR>> > consideration all<BR>> > of the surrounding environment?<BR>> > <BR>> > bj<BR>> > <BR>> > -<BR>> > _____________________________________________<BR>> > <BR>> > List un/subscription information is at:<BR>> > http://communication.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html
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