>Thanks for your reply, Dan, but I think you misread my question of "Does
>anyone know when most _players_ stopped making ji-ari shakuhachi?"
>
>My main inquiry was to ascertain whether this could have been made by
Sakai
>Chikuho at all - whether he made flutes or not since many players now are
>purely focused on playing. I also specified ji-ari since I know of some
>players today making hochikus (sp?).
>
>From what I understand of hanko on the flute, the more hanko, the higer
the
>maker thought of them - except now it seems common to use two stamps on
>flutes that have a netsuke joint. I did see a Miura Ryuho flute this year
>with 3 stamps on it - the third being at the bottom of the bell. The
>placement on this flute would make sense since it was a nobekan - a one
>piece flute.
>
>I'm also aware of the lineage names - but what I'm curious about is with
>full names. Uesugi Kenshin, a lord of Echigo (sp?) was not born of the
>Uesugi family but was given the name as a sucessor to that position. A
>current maker, Tadasuke, was also given this name by Kawase Junsuke III -
>apparently Junsuke III's birth name (I think - I only heard this from
>secondary sources).
>
>In the end, I'm curious as to whether there could have been anyone else
>other than those of Sakai Chikuho's kai to be using this name - probably
not
>- but I wanted someone with enough knowledge to confirm.
>
>Ebay is a really shifty place to do business with anything expensive - I'm
>not sure if I would trust this listing as most (not all) shakuhachi
sellers
>on eBay claims ignorance of shakuhachi or profess their product's
wonderful
>tone and sound.
>
>Then again, this could have been the real thing - either way, it'll cost a
>lot more than a few hundred dollars to repair a crack that's made it
through
>to the bore...
>
>...but then again, if it was the real thing, at the very least one would
>have a historical artifact.
>
>
>Duke.
>
>>From: ribbled@med.kochi-ms.ac.jp
>>Reply-To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
>>To: shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
>>Subject: Chikuho?
>>Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:28:32 +0900
>>
>>
>>Hi Duke,
>>
>>You asked "Does anyone know when most players stopped making Ji-ari
>>shakuhachi ? I know
>>some still do today but I assume most do not."
>>
>> Most shakuhachi makers have not stopped making ji-ari flutes; ji-ari
>>shakuhachis are the flutes that are usually made here in Japan; ji refers
>>to the lacquer/tonoko mix, ari is from the Japanese verb aru - to have,
so
>>ji-ari flutes are those flutes that are coated on the inside with lacquer
>>or urushi. Perhaps you meant to say ji-nashi shakuhachi, flutes without
>>ji, or lacquer, which recently seem to have become popular but which are
>>still fairly uncommon compared with the ji-ari flutes.
>>
>>
>>"I'm wondering if Sakai Chikuho I or II could have made this - or was
there
>>another maker with a similar name?"
>>
>> I'm sure someone is probably familiar with their hanko seals or their
>>flutes, and perhaps could tell from the photos; the kanji does read as
>>Chikuho. It seems a bit unusual that the flute was marked with a hanko on
>>the underside of its root end...I don't think that many makers stamp
their
>>flutes there.. Then again, I haven't seen that many flutes compared with
>>some members on this list -- maybe the stamp on the base is not so
unusual?
>>
>>
>>"I know famous names are sometimes given to others (from the owners) in
>>Japan, is it still the case today?"
>>
>>Shakuhachi masters give a name to their students when their students take
>>the jun-shihan or shihan license, but usually just one kanji is given
from
>>the master's name -- in the branch of Kinko ryu that I belong to, all
>>players at shihan level are given a two kanji name with the last kanji
>>having the reading dou, from our iemoto Fuji Jidou's name. Sakai
Chikuho
>>I or II may have given part of his name to his master students, but not
his
>>whole name, so the shakuhachi would probably not be that of one of his
>>students, though perhaps there were other Chikuhos... I think there are
>>some lineage charts at www.komuso.com -- perhaps you could find some
>>information there...that, or find a player who was/is in Chikuho ryu.
>>
>>
>>Cheers,
>>
>>Dan Ribble
>>Kochi, Japan
>>
>>
>>
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