--=======AVGMAIL-4230B93F1AB3=======
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C525B6.77975850
Totally agree!
I run the websites for all the UK didge festivals and the most expensive =
of them is =A340 for three nights including camping.
Workshops are extra depending on who is doing them. But you can cherry =
pick your workshops according to exactly what you want to learn.
These festivals are fantastic, with a lot of performers performing for =
free and only making money on the workshops they do.
They are also held in beautiful places.
Back to shakuhachi... i use the shakuhachi for meditation, to help me =
to enlightenment and fulfillment. I really don't know what i can =
possibly learn from someone who insists on being pampered in first class =
and won't share their knowledge unless they're paid a lot of money.
Whatever happened to Zen?
Like i said before, it's a far cry from busking for alms.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: JASON CASTNER=20
To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI FESTIVAL
OK, I understand your point. But listen to this:
In Ithaca every year they have a grassroots festival
where 1000's of people come together for 4 days of non
stop live music and festivities. You can see and
enjoy live jamacian, blue grass, rock, all kinds of
music. they have a non stop drum circle and huge
bonfire all night every night. dance tents and food
stalls - the whole works. it cost 20 dollars a day
and camp grounds are close by with free bus
transportation to and from the festivities all 24
hours of the day. Camping is 35 dollars for 4 nights!
I spent maybe 100 dollars in four days there last
year.
Anyways that story is off subject kinda but shows what
people can accomplish for reasonable prices when they
care and are nice/kind people that dont see through
the eyes of profit all the time.
Why cant these world famous people volunteer there
time. I think less of them now after hearing that
they need first class and need to be pampered like
babies to show up at a festival that is about
something they love and have dedicated there life to.
what you said in your email is exactly what is wrong
with todays world.
sorry if you are mad at me but this is what I think.=20
I am only saying my thoughts on the subject.
jason
=20
--- KYOSEI1@aol.com wrote:
> Before going off the deep end about this, have you
> given any thought to what=20
> it takes to fly the guests half way around the world
> (1st class air only)=20
> put them in good accommodations and pay for the
> pleasure of their instruction=20
> and performances. How many world famous people will
> you get for no money? Do=20
> you think that people come from Japan and Australia
> for the fun of it? Who=20
> will provide the none profit sponsorship? Who will
> provide the class room and=20
> performance space? Have you thought about the
> insurance requirements to hold =20
> such a gathering? The people that worked for months
> before anything was visible =20
> were all volunteers dedicated to bringing this event
> to you for your=20
> enjoyment. I was one of them, and I still thank
> Ronnie Seldin for his effort, by the=20
> way after all was said and done we still needed
> donations to pay off the=20
> university for their services.
> =20
> With deepest bows and great respect for all those
> who worked so hard to make=20
> the Big Apple Festival a success.
> =20
> In Gassho,=20
> =20
> Kyosei
>=20
__________________________________=20
Do you Yahoo!?=20
Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/=20
_____________________________________________
List subscription information is at:
http://communication.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html
--=20
No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 07/03/2005
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C525B6.77975850
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Diso-8859-1">
<META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=3DGENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=3D#e0e0e0>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Totally =
agree!</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>I run the websites for =
all the UK=20
didge festivals and the most expensive of them is =A340 for three nights =
including=20
camping.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Workshops are extra =
depending on who=20
is doing them. But you can cherry pick your workshops according to =
exactly=20
what you want to learn.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>These festivals are =
fantastic, with a=20
lot of performers performing for free and only making money on the =
workshops=20
they do.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>They are also held in =
beautiful=20
places.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Back to =
shakuhachi... i use the=20
shakuhachi for meditation, to help me to enlightenment and =
fulfillment. I=20
really don't know what i can possibly learn from someone who =
insists on=20
being pampered in first class and won't share their knowledge unless =
they're=20
paid a lot of money.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Whatever happened to=20
Zen?</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM> </DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Like i said before, it's =
a far cry=20
from busking for alms.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djchanwagenki@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:jchanwagenki@yahoo.com">JASON=20
CASTNER</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
title=3DShakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
=
href=3D"mailto:Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu">Shakuhachi@communicatio=
n.ucsd.edu</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, March 10, 2005 =
9:06=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI =
FESTIVAL</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>OK, I understand your point. But listen to =
this:<BR>In=20
Ithaca every year they have a grassroots festival<BR>where 1000's of =
people=20
come together for 4 days of non<BR>stop live music and =
festivities. You=20
can see and<BR>enjoy live jamacian, blue grass, rock, all kinds=20
of<BR>music. they have a non stop drum circle and =
huge<BR>bonfire all=20
night every night. dance tents and food<BR>stalls - the whole=20
works. it cost 20 dollars a day<BR>and camp grounds are close by =
with=20
free bus<BR>transportation to and from the festivities all 24<BR>hours =
of the=20
day. Camping is 35 dollars for 4 nights!<BR>I spent maybe 100 =
dollars in=20
four days there last<BR>year.<BR><BR>Anyways that story is off subject =
kinda=20
but shows what<BR>people can accomplish for reasonable prices when=20
they<BR>care and are nice/kind people that dont see through<BR>the =
eyes of=20
profit all the time.<BR><BR>Why cant these world famous people =
volunteer=20
there<BR>time. I think less of them now after hearing =
that<BR>they need=20
first class and need to be pampered like<BR>babies to show up at a =
festival=20
that is about<BR>something they love and have dedicated there life=20
to.<BR><BR>what you said in your email is exactly what is =
wrong<BR>with todays=20
world.<BR><BR>sorry if you are mad at me but this is what I think. =
<BR>I am=20
only saying my thoughts on the subject.<BR><BR>jason<BR> =
<BR><BR>--- <A=20
href=3D"mailto:KYOSEI1@aol.com">KYOSEI1@aol.com</A> wrote:<BR>> =
Before going=20
off the deep end about this, have you<BR>> given any thought =
to what=20
<BR>> it takes to fly the guests half way around the world<BR>> =
(1st=20
class air only) <BR>> put them in good accommodations and pay =
for=20
the<BR>> pleasure of their instruction <BR>> and =
performances. How=20
many world famous people will<BR>> you get for no money? Do =
<BR>>=20
you think that people come from Japan and Australia<BR>> for the =
fun of=20
it? Who <BR>> will provide the none profit sponsorship? Who=20
will<BR>> provide the class room and <BR>> performance =
space? Have=20
you thought about the<BR>> insurance requirements to hold =
<BR>>=20
such a gathering? The people that worked for months<BR>> before =
anything=20
was visible <BR>> were all volunteers dedicated to bringing =
this=20
event<BR>> to you for your <BR>> enjoyment. I was one of =
them, and=20
I still thank<BR>> Ronnie Seldin for his effort, by the <BR>> =
way =20
after all was said and done we still needed<BR>> donations to pay =
off the=20
<BR>> university for their services.<BR>> <BR>> =
With=20
deepest bows and great respect for all those<BR>> who worked so =
hard=20
to make <BR>> the Big Apple Festival a success.<BR>> =
<BR>> In Gassho, <BR>> <BR>> Kyosei<BR>>=20
<BR><BR><BR><BR>__________________________________ <BR>Do you Yahoo!?=20
<BR>Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/">http://smallbusiness.y=
ahoo.com/resources/</A>=20
<BR>_____________________________________________<BR><BR>List =
subscription=20
information is at:<BR> <A=20
=
href=3D"http://communication.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html">http://communic=
ation.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html</A><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>--=20
<BR>No virus found in this incoming message.<BR>Checked by AVG=20
Anti-Virus.<BR>Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release =
Date:=20
07/03/2005<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C525B6.77975850--
--=======AVGMAIL-4230B93F1AB3=======
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Description: "AVG certification"
No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.6.4 - Release Date: 07/03/2005
--=======AVGMAIL-4230B93F1AB3=======--
_____________________________________________
List subscription information is at:
http://communication.ucsd.edu/shaku/listsub.html
This archive was generated by hypermail 2b29 : Fri Jan 06 2006 - 10:00:43 PST