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I just recently rejoined this list and after seeing this thread escalate and am quickly remembering why I left.
I found a certian elitism here now and in the past that makes me wonder if people really even embrace what this was supposed to be about.
Tony Miller
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Thanks Riley,
Very well said. Personally I am very tired of folks whining about how much teachers cost, instruments cost, workshops cost etc. And I have found a lot of this thread to be crude and rude. Whatever happened to respecting our teachers, honoring their attention to the art and the sacrifices they have had to make. Pulling a festival together is an enormous task. Worrying about how I can attend the event without paying a fair share seems so selfish. There has been a lot of attention paid recently to repairing cracked flutes. Perhaps we should start a thread focusing on repairing cracked players.
Rob McNeil
Philadelphia
On 3/11/05 6:30 AM, "Riley Lee" <riley@rileylee.net> wrote:
Hello all.
Just for the record, the first class/business class tickets are for our teacher's generation. The cost of these tickets would be mere tokens of my gratitude for what they have given me, and I am sure that I speak for Ronnie. I couldn't pay back my teachers for what they have given me even if I were wealthier than Bill Gates. Really and truly, I could never repay my teachers.
The teachers who will be at the Hawaii Festival next week will earn less than $5/hr. This doesn't cover the time/effort/money they spent learning what they will teach to others. If one factors all of that in, then one can say that they are, in fact, giving away their treasures.
The fee that I will be paid this year for the Rockies Camp might just cover my airfare (economy class). It will take me about 16 hours of actual, in-the-air flying time to get there, so I suppose I'm getting a good deal on the airfare. It has been suggested (not on this list) that I really shouldn't be doing this sort of travelling because of the contribution my travels make to global warming. This bothers me. I've yet to sort this out in my mind.
Even if I were to travel first/business class and paid a fee on top of that, that travel allowance and fee would be paying me to teach concrete skills and concrete knowledge. Yes, one doesn't need those skills and that knowledge to enjoy blowing into bamboo flutes and to meditate while doing so.
Suffice it to say that I have experienced blowing into bamboo flutes without those skills and blowing into them with those skills. I'd choose having the skills any day. People who haven't had both experiences can't comment on this one way or the other.
The people who attend the Rockies Camp pay for the skills, as they might for classes on plumbing, or dancing. The enlightenment that they might achieve while mastering those skills is given freely and graciously.
Best regards,
Riley Lee
Sound of Bamboo
PO Box 939, Manly NSW 1655, Australia
tel. +612 9976 6904 fax +612 9976 6905
mobile +612 414 626 453
www.rileylee.net
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Thanks Riley,<BR><BR>Very well said. Personally I am very tired of folks whining about how much teachers cost, instruments cost, workshops cost etc. And I have found a lot of this thread to be crude and rude. Whatever happened to respecting our teachers, honoring their attention to the art and the sacrifices they have had to make. Pulling a festival together is an enormous task. Worrying about how I can attend the event without paying a fair share seems so selfish. There has been a lot of attention paid recently to repairing cracked flutes. Perhaps we should start a thread focusing on repairing cracked players. <BR><BR>Rob McNeil<BR>Philadelphia<BR><BR><BR>On 3/11/05 6:30 AM, "Riley Lee" <riley@rileylee.net> wrote:<BR><BR></SPAN></FONT>
<BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face="Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12px">Hello all. <BR><BR>Just for the record, the first class/business class tickets are for our teacher's generation. The cost of these tickets would be mere tokens of my gratitude for what they have given me, and I am sure that I speak for Ronnie. I couldn't pay back my teachers for what they have given me even if I were wealthier than Bill Gates. Really and truly, I could never repay my teachers. <BR><BR>The teachers who will be at the Hawaii Festival next week will earn less than $5/hr. This doesn't cover the time/effort/money they spent learning what they will teach to others. If one factors all of that in, then one can say that they are, in fact, giving away their treasures. <BR><BR>The fee that I will be paid this year for the Rockies Camp might just cover my airfare (economy class). It will take me about 16 hours of actual, in-the-air flying time to get there, so I suppose I'm getting a !
good deal on the airfare. It has been suggested (not on this list) that I really shouldn't be doing this sort of travelling because of the contribution my travels make to global warming. This bothers me. I've yet to sort this out in my mind. <BR><BR>Even if I were to travel first/business class and paid a fee on top of that, that travel allowance and fee would be paying me to teach concrete skills and concrete knowledge. Yes, one doesn't need those skills and that knowledge to enjoy blowing into bamboo flutes and to meditate while doing so. <BR><BR>Suffice it to say that I have experienced blowing into bamboo flutes without those skills and blowing into them with those skills. I'd choose having the skills any day. People who haven't had both experiences can't comment on this one way or the other. <BR><BR>The people who attend the Rockies Camp pay for the skills, as they might for classes on plumbing, or dancing. The enlightenment that they might achieve while masterin!
g those skills is given freely and graciously. <BR><BR>Best regards, &
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