Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI FESTIVAL

From: stan (b@didgethings.co.uk)
Date: Fri Mar 11 2005 - 07:34:09 PST


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As do i. A gift is always worth more than something that has to be =
bought.

The problem is that many people these days see only money as the true =
value of everything. This is sad, very sad.

We can change the world to make a better place through our music, but =
only if we are going to get away from the capitalist consumerist culture =
that pervades everything.

The Komuso played their flutes freely. People accepted that gift and =
gave alms freely according to their own abilities. The Komuso accepted =
the gift and continued to give more.

Maybe we can learn something here.
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: JASON CASTNER=20
  To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu=20
  Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI FESTIVAL

  I value things more that I dont pay for

  --- edBeaty <edosano@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >More thoughts............
> >
> >Re; first calss travel, you want your guests to be
> in good energy, not
> >jet-lagged, tired, disoriented. They have more
> extensive demands to cater to
> >than the 'students'.
>=20
> And the teachers work remarkably hard at their
> teaching tasks. Please=20
> note: This is NOT a Zen retreat, but an intensive
> residential=20
> workshop. If you want a Zen retreat, it ain't there
> (not even a=20
> pretense of it...)
>=20
> >
> >You get what you pay for.
> >
> >If you don't pay for it there is a real chance you
> won't value it.
> >
> >These occassions are 'Special', not 'Everyday'.
> >
> >I have a gallery and once thought gallery owners
> did not earn the commission
> >they take on a sale, well I know this is not the
> case. A gallery owner has
> >many overheads, rent or purchasee of the space,
> electricity, rates, wages,
> >advertising, entertainment and years of promoting
> an artist and developing a
> >clientele.
> >a
> >Celebrate diversity, think how it might be
> otherwise.
>=20
> Here, here...
>=20
> eB
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<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>As do i.&nbsp; A gift is =
always worth=20
more than something that has to be bought.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>The problem is that many =
people these=20
days see only money as the true value of everything.&nbsp; This is sad, =
very=20
sad.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>We can change the world =
to make a=20
better place through our music, but only if we are going to get away =
from the=20
capitalist consumerist culture that pervades =
everything.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>The Komuso played their =
flutes=20
freely.&nbsp; People accepted that gift and gave alms freely according =
to their=20
own abilities.&nbsp; The Komuso accepted the gift and continued to give=20
more.</FONT></EM></DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4></FONT></EM>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><EM><FONT face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4>Maybe we can learn =
something=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI =

  FESTIVAL</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>I value things more that I dont pay for<BR><BR><BR>--- =
edBeaty=20
  &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:edosano@yahoo.com">edosano@yahoo.com</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;More thoughts............<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt;Re;=20
  first calss travel, you want your guests to be<BR>&gt; in good energy, =

  not<BR>&gt; &gt;jet-lagged, tired, disoriented. They have more<BR>&gt; =

  extensive demands to cater to<BR>&gt; &gt;than the 'students'.<BR>&gt; =

  <BR>&gt; And the teachers work remarkably hard at their<BR>&gt; =
teaching=20
  tasks. Please <BR>&gt; note: This is NOT a Zen retreat, but an=20
  intensive<BR>&gt; residential <BR>&gt; workshop. If you want a Zen =
retreat, it=20
  ain't there<BR>&gt; (not even a <BR>&gt; pretense of it...)<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;You get what you pay for.<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;If =
you=20
  don't pay for it there is a real chance you<BR>&gt; won't value =
it.<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;These occassions are 'Special', not =
'Everyday'.<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;I have a gallery and once thought gallery =
owners<BR>&gt; did=20
  not earn the commission<BR>&gt; &gt;they take on a sale, well I know =
this is=20
  not the<BR>&gt; case. A gallery owner has<BR>&gt; &gt;many overheads, =
rent or=20
  purchasee of the space,<BR>&gt; electricity, rates, wages,<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt;advertising, entertainment and years of promoting<BR>&gt; an =
artist and=20
  developing a<BR>&gt; &gt;clientele.<BR>&gt; &gt;a<BR>&gt; =
&gt;Celebrate=20
  diversity, think how it might be<BR>&gt; otherwise.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Here,=20
  here...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; eB<BR>&gt;=20
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