I'm glad you said that because it shows the good and
evil the yin and yang that is in everything. What
will you be?????????
--- Thomas Hare <thare@Princeton.EDU> wrote:
> I think the practices of Komus=F4 are being thrown
> around in this=20
> discussion without much basis in fact. Some Komus=F4
> may well have been=20
> deeply spiritual and "enlightened," with only the
> good of all sentient=20
> beings on their minds as they went their rounds in
> medieval and early=20
> modern Japan. There are plenty of documents,
> however, to show that=20
> many other Komus=F4 were thugs who extorted offerings
> from their=20
> ""patrons." It obscures the point of the discussion
> when we idealize=20
> shakuhachi players from the past in an effort to
> bolster our arguments=20
> about teaching and learning. If those arguments are
> solid, they don't=20
> need imaginary figures from the past to make sense.
>=20
> Tom Hare
>=20
> On Mar 11, 2005, at 10:34 AM, stan wrote:
>=20
> > As do i.=A0 A gift is always worth more than
> something that has to be=20
> > bought.
> > =A0
> > The problem is that many people these days see
> only money as the true=20
> > value of everything.=A0 This is sad, very sad.
> > =A0
> > We can change the world to make a better place
> through our music, but=20
> > only if we are going to get away from the
> capitalist consumerist=20
> > culture that pervades everything.
> > =A0
> > The Komuso played their flutes freely.=A0 People
> accepted that gift and=20
> > gave alms freely according to their own
> abilities.=A0 The Komuso=20
> > accepted the gift and continued to give more.
> > =A0
> > Maybe we can learn something here.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: JASON CASTNER
> > To: Shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> > Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 3:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Shaku] SHAKUHACHI FESTIVAL
> >
> > I value things more that I dont pay for
> >
> >
> > --- edBeaty <edosano@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > >More thoughts............
> > > >
> > > >Re; first calss travel, you want your guests to
> be
> > > in good energy, not
> > > >jet-lagged, tired, disoriented. They have more
> > > extensive demands to cater to
> > > >than the 'students'.
> > >
> > > And the teachers work remarkably hard at their
> > > teaching tasks. Please
> > > note: This is NOT a Zen retreat, but an
> intensive
> > > residential
> > > workshop. If you want a Zen retreat, it ain't
> there
> > > (not even a
> > > pretense of it...)
> > >
> > > >
> > > >You get what you pay for.
> > > >
> > > >If you don't pay for it there is a real chance
> you
> > > won't value it.
> > > >
> > > >These occassions are 'Special', not 'Everyday'.
> > > >
> > > >I have a gallery and once thought gallery
> owners
> > > did not earn the commission
> > > >they take on a sale, well I know this is not
> the
> > > case. A gallery owner has
> > > >many overheads, rent or purchasee of the space,
> > > electricity, rates, wages,
> > > >advertising, entertainment and years of
> promoting
> > > an artist and developing a
> > > >clientele.
> > > >a
> > > >Celebrate diversity, think how it might be
> > > otherwise.
> > >
> > > Here, here...
> > >
> > > eB
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