Re: [Shaku] The Power of Urushi

From: Ron Hamady <rhamfilm@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Jul 11 2007 - 16:16:11 PDT

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I think urushi is necessary to avoid moisture damage to the bamboo. R

delmar mavignier <mavignier@passionpixels.com> wrote: and really... wh=
y do we need urushi in the first place.
  much nicer sound without. and playing the bamboo instead of the lacquer=
.
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  anyone?
 =20

  :-)
 =20

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    On 12 Jul 2007, at 01:24, Kiku Day wrote:

    Hi there.
 =20

  I got to this discussion quite late as I am traveling a lot of collect =
shakuhachi from different makers...
  which again means...
  I have had new experiences with urushi!
 =20

  I have never reacted to urushi during the 18 years I have played shakuh=
achi. I usually play unlacquered shakuhachi, but will, of course, take a =
new shakuhachi up now and then and play - without any problem until recen=
tly.
 =20

  But this time around, I have had quite severe reactions. And for me it =
has so far been black urushi, but I am reacting to urushi used by some ma=
kers... and not others (also if I play new instruments with urushi). The =
first time I reacted, I had a swollen eye like David and a blistered chin=
. Note: eye - not eyes! I am, after all, here in Japan to research in sha=
kuhachi making, and by chance I found out that my "eye infection" (which =
I first thought it was) came from sticking my eye up the flute (e.g., loo=
king into them) with my right eye! I was looking and writing down how muc=
h of the nodes were left etc.
  It is absolutely terrible to have swollen eye(s), so I also went to the=
 doctor, who prescribed medicine and a mild cream with steroid (which I r=
eally didn't want to use, but hey...). With powerful medicine my urushi r=
eaction quickly disappeared (at least I had eyesight on my left eye). The=
n I got my hands on some other shakuhachi a couple of weeks later, and wi=
thin 30 minutes of examining them, measuring them etc I got a reaction. T=
his time I could even follow where on my body my left hand had been... su=
ch as scratching my right armpit as I had a milder reaction there (and th=
e shakuhachi came nowhere near my armpit)!!!
 =20

  So for now, I am being very careful with urushi!
  At least I got a good urushi story out of it! It can be dangerous to do=
 research into shakuhachi!!!
  But I do wonder why I get my first urushi reaction after 18 years.
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  Hope you are all well though!
  Kiku
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I think urushi is necessary to avoid moisture damage to the bamboo. R<BR>=
<BR><B><I>delmar mavignier &lt;mavignier@passionpixels.com&gt;</I></B> wr=
ote: <BLOCKQUOTE class=3Dreplbq style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:=
 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid"> <DIV>and really... why do we need=
 urushi in the first place.</DIV> <DIV>much nicer sound without. and pla=
ying the bamboo instead of the lacquer.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-blo=
ck-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>anyone?</DIV> <DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-p=
laceholder></DIV> <DIV>:-)</DIV> <DIV><BR class=3Dkhtml-block-placehold=
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IV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On 12 Jul 2007, at 01:24, Kiku Day wrote:</DIV><BR c=
lass=3DApple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite"> <DIV style=
=3D"MARGIN: 0px">Hi there.</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN:=
 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">I got to this discussion qui=
te late as I am traveling a lot of collect shakuhachi
 from different makers...</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">which again m=
eans...</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">I have had new experiences with=
 urushi!</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> =
<DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">I have never reacted to urushi during the 18 y=
ears I have played shakuhachi. I usually play unlacquered shakuhachi, but=
 will, of course, take a new shakuhachi up now and then and play - withou=
t any problem until recently.</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARG=
IN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">But this time around, I h=
ave had quite severe reactions. And for me it has so far been black urush=
i, but I am reacting to urushi used by some makers... and not others (als=
o if I play new instruments with urushi). The first time I reacted, I had=
 a swollen eye like David and a blistered chin. Note: eye - not eyes! I a=
m, after all, here in Japan to research in shakuhachi making, and by chan=
ce I found out that my "eye infection" (which I
 first thought it was) came from sticking my eye up the flute (e.g., look=
ing into them) with my right eye! I was looking and writing down how much=
 of the nodes were left etc.</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">It is abso=
lutely terrible to have swollen eye(s), so I also went to the doctor, who=
 prescribed medicine and a mild cream with steroid (which I really didn't=
 want to use, but hey...). With powerful medicine my urushi reaction quic=
kly disappeared (at least I had eyesight on my left eye). Then I got my h=
ands on some other shakuhachi a couple of weeks later, and within 30 minu=
tes of examining them, measuring them etc I got a reaction. This time I c=
ould even follow where on my body my left hand had been... such as scratc=
hing my right armpit as I had a milder reaction there (and the shakuhachi=
 came nowhere near my armpit)!!!</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; M=
ARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">So for now, I am being=
 very careful with urushi!</DIV> <DIV
 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">At least I got a good urushi story out of it! It c=
an be dangerous to do research into shakuhachi!!!</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MA=
RGIN: 0px">But I do wonder why I get my first urushi reaction after 18 ye=
ars.</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><BR></DIV> <DIV=
 style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">Hope you are all well though!</DIV> <DIV style=3D=
"MARGIN: 0px">Kiku</DIV> <DIV style=3D"MIN-HEIGHT: 14px; MARGIN: 0px"><B=
R></DIV> <DIV style=3D"MARGIN: 0px">____________________________________=
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