Re: [Shaku] Help in Understanding

From: Nicholas Pierotti (eurydice@cruzio.com)
Date: Thu Jan 06 2005 - 13:18:48 PST

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Interesting! I am a Rinzai practitioner. I sit and blow RO, and have=20
made RO my KOAN.
I try to blow all my notes as if they were "MU"

Does the Dog have Buddha nature?

RO!

Nick

On Jan 6, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Dan Gutwein wrote:

> Kyosei,
>
> =A0
>
> I do meditation in the morning with an old shakuhachi and I just blow=20=

> RO with no attention paid to being a good player or performing a=20
> particular piece correctly.=A0 However, in the evening I also =
=93practice=94=20
> my other shakuhachi as I would practice any other classical=20
> instrument.=A0 Question no. 1:=A0 Are you saying that my evening =
practice=20
> and my morning practice are spiritually at war with each other?=A0=20
> Question no. 2:=A0 If they are, isn=92t it still a good thing to do =
the=20
> morning meditation?
>
> =A0
>
> Dan
>
> http://www.dangutwein.com
>
> =A0
>
> =A0
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KYOSEI1@aol.com [mailto:KYOSEI1@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:06 PM
> To: shakuhachi@communication.ucsd.edu
> Subject: [Shaku] Help in Understanding
>
> =A0
>
> I've just read 10 e-mails about Bodhichitta and all missed the target,=20=

> although=A0some did touch on it. It isn't something you can be shown =
or=20
> taught, it isn't an intellectually discernable thing. Bodhi mind=20
> develops=A0as your Buddhist practice matures,=A0usually after much=20
> meditation and head banging with a good teacher.
>
> =A0
>
> You meditate because you meditate, you play the flute because you play=20=

> the flute. Don't play games with your head, don't try to "figure it=20
> out" just do it. No goals, no picking and choosing.
>
> =A0
>
> The Shakuhachi is a liturgical instrument, a part of Zen Buddhism,=20
> approach it as a spiritual practice or approach it as an instrument to=20=

> be learned and mastered. You can't do both.
>
> =A0
>
> For those that don't know me, I'm a Soto Zen Buddhist and a student of=20=

> Ronnie Seldin.
>
> =A0
>
> In Gassho,
>
> =A0
>
> Kyosei=A0
>
  What is morally wrong can never be advantageous, even when it enables=20=

you to make some gain that you believe to be to your advantage.

  =96 Marcus Tullius Cicero

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Interesting! I am a Rinzai practitioner. I sit and blow RO, and have
made RO my KOAN.=20

I try to blow all my notes as if they were "MU"

Does the Dog have Buddha nature?

RO!

Nick

On Jan 6, 2005, at 3:06 PM, Dan Gutwein wrote:

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with no attention paid to being a good player or performing a
particular piece correctly.=A0 However, in the evening I also =93practice=94=

my other shakuhachi as I would practice any other classical
instrument.=A0 Question no. 1:=A0 Are you saying that my evening =
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touch on it. It isn't something you can be shown or taught, it isn't
an intellectually discernable thing. Bodhi mind develops=A0as your
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